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| SpecialK |
 Jan 21 2005, 12:03 PM
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aircraft surgeon  Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797   |
Yes....but also the origin of the phrase "You get what you pay for"! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| TravisNeff |
Jan 21 2005, 03:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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I think I got an 80cf tank filled with argon/co2 for 38 bux (Can't remember a huge spool of .023 of 70-6 wire and the gas fill was around $80 total). Haven't ran my tank out yet and I am welding anything in sight for the past month or so. Kinda feel bad about the neighbors car doors, but he gets to act like Bo and Luke everymorning... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif)
I bought a new tank for about $80 |
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| CptTripps |
Jan 26 2005, 10:22 AM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Ok, got a new welder last night that'll let me add a tank. Now the question comes up....how big of a tank?
I don;t want to just walk into the welding supply store and say "Hey, I need a tank!" and have them sell me something I don't need. I'll be welding new floorpans in the car initially, and I'm sure I'll want to do a BUNCH of practicing first. I don't want to be running out to re-fill this thing every day either. Anything else I should look for? |
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| TravisNeff |
Jan 26 2005, 10:40 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region
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80 cubic feet oughta do just fine.
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| jdogg |
Jan 26 2005, 03:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 28-January 03 From: Youngsville, NC Member No.: 204 |
I'll have to look when I get home, but the tank I have is about 36" tall and 6" in diameter, and a full tank of the argon/co2 mixture lasted me about 7 lbs. of welding wire (about 3-1/2 rolls). The tank is relatively small and easy to handle, and doesn't take up too much space. I cut up an old shopping cart for a welding cart, works nice...
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| cha914 |
Jan 26 2005, 04:05 PM
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MUSR 8 - 5lug conversion done wed - drive 500miles thrus Group: Members Posts: 739 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 63 |
I have a 125gal tank on mine and it will last me a few months unless I am doing a BIG project, like welding a set of stairs (I think I went through 2 125 tanks in a two week period) Anyway, the tank cost me ~150 bucks and I pay ~25 bucks to refill it...not to bad...
happy welding ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) |
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| scotty b |
Jan 27 2005, 09:04 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Most all welding shops require that you have an account with them for bottles over 90 cf. I would go with that size to minimize trips to the shop, and it is actually a little cheaper in the long run than going with a smaller bottle. PLEASE only use .023 on body panels, I have seen to many people ruin a panels trying to use .030-.035. Good luck (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)
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| CptTripps |
Jan 27 2005, 09:09 AM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Bought an 80cf tank yesterday. and a LOT of .23 wire. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
I'm off to see what kind of trouble I can get into here. Wish me luck! |
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| CptTripps |
Jan 27 2005, 07:07 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So the HF deal isn't so great. The welder has a REAL small hose out of the back that NOBODY could find a fitting for. So back it went. I was searching pawn shops for welders that went unclaimed when one of the local dealers that I trust gave me a great idea....Call repair places to see what hasn't been picked up.
I called a guy in Akron (Welding Diversified) and he got me the DEAL OF THE CENTURY. I picked up a Miller 130MX with a reg for $325. Needed a new circuit board, and the kid never came back to pick it up. It has a 20ft wand on it, and he threw in a large spool of .23, 5 tips, and a mess of replacement parts for the wand in case they went bad. That would have been enough, but when I went to pay for it he stopped me and said "You aren't allowed to buy it yet...We're going to weld together first." He spent the next 2hrs with me giving me all kinds of instruction on welding, maintinance, and 'best practices'. We did about a small spool worth of tacks, spots, plugs, butts and anything else he could think to show me. I'd have paid $300 just for that! To say that I feel WAY more confident is an understatement. I'm still going to practice a lot more, but I'm SO excited to jump back into the garage and do my floors now. I think I'll re-do the firewall now too. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (Pics to follow) |
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| scotty b |
Jan 27 2005, 07:17 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) BIG FAT congrats on that deal!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rocking nana.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif)
BTW no deal at HarborFreight is good, Those type places do not carry quality machinery in my experience,good for trailer parts....BAD for tools. |
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| Gint |
Jan 27 2005, 09:11 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Nice goin.
BTW - Put your first name in your sig? |
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| CptTripps |
Jan 27 2005, 10:06 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I've been buying thigs there that I may rent for the weekend. It's usually about the same, and if it lasts longer than the weekend, I'm ahead. I would have 'upgraded' to their Hobart 135 welder, but they were out of stock. I was about ready to go to Lowes and get a Lincoln Electric MIG. For $200 LESS I got this... Attached image(s) 
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| CptTripps |
Jan 27 2005, 10:08 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Here's what getting rid of the Flux-Core stuff can do...
Along with a lesson... (Not perfect, but WAY better!) Attached image(s) 
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| Lou W |
Jan 27 2005, 10:12 PM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
Sooo, you got the Miller welder from Harbor Freights?? for how much? can you add a tank to it later? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) |
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| CptTripps |
Jan 27 2005, 10:13 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
er...no. Read backwards. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| Lou W |
Jan 27 2005, 10:16 PM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
Gotcha, it's been a long day (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Jan 27 2005, 10:26 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,728 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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DOUG!!! Those look alot better! You could probably turn down the wire speed or turn up the heat just a touch. Once you get to meltn' stuff on the car though you'll probably go with a slower wire speed. Sounds like you got some good training that will make the learning curve a little faster. After you cut some of the metal off the car, practice welding new metal to that. Make some notes regarding your wire speed and heat settings. You'll probably find that you need different settings for doing the rosette welding than you will just joining panels. Do lots of practice on the rosettes, you'll be doing lots of those (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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| Trekkor |
Jan 27 2005, 10:27 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
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| CptTripps |
Jan 27 2005, 10:35 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thanks PK. Yeah, I was looking for a little notepad to start noting this kind of stuff. Also things like 'which bolt goes where'. I bought a hole punch, so I'm going to practice a lot of that tomorrow...upside down no less. It won't do me too much good to do too many off of a bench or something, if I have 500 to do on my back. That leads me to another question I'll ask on the Floor Pan topic.... |
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| bare 1 |
Jan 27 2005, 10:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Apache Junction viaWhidbey Is. Member No.: 3,019 Region Association: None |
As far as welding without yer glasses,my wife gave me a set of magnifying lenses out of a sewing kit I believe, flat so I could put them in my hood . Man , What a difference those made. Seeing the puddle makes all the differwnce in the world!!! Especially using a stick welder. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif)
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