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> 914 Price Trends, Going Up?
swooshdave
post Jul 22 2014, 11:34 PM
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I"m just looking at the Hagarty estimates to start. I've heard many people say that the prices of 914s are going up. The Hagarty charts seem to disagree and say that the prices are flat for the last 8 years except for a bump around 2010.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/hvt/...eport?vc=879762

I don't think they have enough comparables to track the 914s accurately enough.

Is there a better source for pricing trends aside from antidotal evidence?

I used the 1973 2.0 as sample as that seems to be held as one of the more desirable of the fours.
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post Jul 22 2014, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(swooshdave @ Jul 22 2014, 10:34 PM) *

I"m just looking at the Hagarty estimates to start. I've heard many people say that the prices of 914s are going up. The Hagarty charts seem to disagree and say that the prices are flat for the last 8 years except for a bump around 2010.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/hvt/...eport?vc=879762

I don't think they have enough comparables to track the 914s accurately enough.

Is there a better source for pricing trends aside from antidotal evidence?

I used the 1973 2.0 as sample as that seems to be held as one of the more desirable of the fours.


Thanks for the link. I'm excited to learn ...

"Notes/Buzz+10% for factory a/c. +10% for 5-spd."

... that I get a +10% for my 5speed tranny!

No factory air for me, but on a serious note, I learned recently that my in-glass rear window defroster was only ordered on 5-10% of cars. That's gotta be worth an extra $25 or $30 bucks, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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post Jul 23 2014, 08:04 AM
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It used to rare to see a 914 over $15K, now there are many. Look at the 6 prices. I think the increasing popularity of a/cooled models is raising everyone's value.

Just this week, I renewed with Hagerty and raised the value a couple of thousand.
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post Jul 23 2014, 12:49 PM
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I agree, Len
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post Jul 23 2014, 01:55 PM
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http://classiccars.com/listings/find/all-years/porsche/914
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post Jul 23 2014, 02:02 PM
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Good info! Thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 23 2014, 06:18 PM
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My gut feeling is that, at least for "driver" cars, they over-state the value in their earlier estimates, and under-value the cars currently. But that's not based on real data, so...

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post Jul 23 2014, 06:30 PM
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I was happy until I looked up 1.8L values! If I can get my car to condition 3, then it might be a wash... So the question is more HP or a better looking car. I'll take the HP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Jul 23 2014, 10:51 PM
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I assume the "rising prices" that I've seen here must refer to people who bought longer than 8 years ago? Or are they talking about the increases in the rarer models such as the -6?
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post Jul 24 2014, 06:29 AM
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I think the prices right now are a bit over inflated at least on most of them. As someone who's "trying" to find a decent car, I'm seeing a lot of over priced unoriginal project cars being sold for silly money. Or at least being offered. None of it is moving as I've been seeing the same cars for sale over the past 6 months. So while some of these people are trying to ride the wave and cash in, I don't think they're being realistic with their pricing.

I looked at a "rust free" 1.8 in Sarasota for $16k. A) It was very rusty B) It was a 1.8 C) It had a lot of unoriginal parts to include wing, splitter, and wheels. That's just one example.

Then again, it's a win win for them. It sells for more than it should, win. It doesn't sell, they get to keep their car, win.

Can't blame them for trying (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jul 24 2014, 06:32 AM
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Case in point... Unless I'm missing something here, can anyone explain the asking price on this???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-2-Door...=US_Cars_Trucks
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post Jul 24 2014, 07:02 AM
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pretty simple: its a dealer, its ebay, and its an asking price.
Hes already got 5 offers.
Looks like an pretty nice fairly original car.
No mention of a COA which Id expect for this level of car & price.
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post Jul 24 2014, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(deputydog95 @ Jul 24 2014, 08:32 AM) *

Case in point... Unless I'm missing something here, can anyone explain the asking price on this???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-2-Door...=US_Cars_Trucks


We all know there's usually a vast difference between the ask price and the sale price, but the ask here does represent something and that is increasing values. In this case, the seller is fishing for an uninformed buyer who may bite. Or perhaps has inflated the price in order to have room during negotiations.

You must try to keep track of the final sale price as well as the ask.The more you see, the more you become an informed, savvy buyer (or seller) Good luck.
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post Jul 24 2014, 09:39 AM
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In this case, the seller is fishing for an uninformed buyer who may bite.


Yep, that would be my guess. I've been looking for a 911 for a while in the 2000 - 2005 range, those prices are also inflated compared to the mileage on them.

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post Jul 24 2014, 11:30 AM
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One thing to consider is that the inflated prices are just that- inflation. They're not worth more, it's the fact that the dollar buys less as time goes on.

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post Jul 24 2014, 11:39 AM
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I can see why Hagarty tracks auction prices and not classifieds as you know the selling price. Otherwise it's just a crapshoot.

I don't think inflation has much of an impact on car values.
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post Jul 24 2014, 01:03 PM
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Go to - Ebay Motors

Look to the right of the search button for Advanced Search, click that.

On the advanced search page, type Porsche 914 and scroll down slightly to Sold Listings.

Click that and hit search. It will bring up a 6 month history.
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post Jul 24 2014, 04:04 PM
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I was reading in the newspaper that values for lots of different hard assets have all risen to historic levels. These seem like a better investment that the returns from bonds or stocks. Until the bubble bursts that is!
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post Jul 24 2014, 06:25 PM
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What do you expect, the car's out in Southhampton. No doubt trying to be sold to some uhh, unsavvy buyer influenced by the marque's name, as Len points out.

HEY!! It's a PORSCHE! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

What's one of them fancy 918's going for, sumthin north of 900g's by the time yer out the door? No doubt there's gonna be at least one of em toolin around the Hamptons eventually. And it'll prolly be silver... Am I making a connection?

It's a nice looking car. Silver makes a 914 look, shall I say, less like a 70's relic.

Someone may just bite and make a solid offer. Or not... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Jul 24 2014, 08:31 PM
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Southhampton, uninformed, moneyed, summer.
Hey! Ya never know.
( Don't tell the buyer there was a bigger engine available)
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