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> Under cowl A/C unit design input thread and gauging interest, replacing behr with burrr!
Gauging interest
Under cowl A/C unit choices
I'd like a Model B [ 18 ] ** [40.91%]
I'd like a Model A [ 22 ] ** [50.00%]
I'd like a Model H [ 4 ] ** [9.09%]
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Chris914n6
post Jul 23 2014, 08:24 PM
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Dusted off another one of my projects from when I first built my waterpumper. Heater and A/C replacing the factory fresh air blower unit.

History. I built the unit using a tube/fin core from my Uncle's buddy Dave @ Hotrod Air. HRA went under in the recession and so did the company that actually made the cores. Oddly enough this is a benefit despite having made some really nice wood vacuum forming bucks.

The good news. For version 2 I went with separate heater and evap cores. The heater is off the shelf, I just need to trim the tubes. The evap I'm having made by a company I met at the 2013 SEMA show and is modern plate type. Blower is a 3 speed.

The nitty gritty. Uses stock controls and stock air deflector boxes. Hoses run Pass side like DPD/VPC. I did design a setup for modern controls and deflector boxes with a separate side vent path, but it's a bit complicated to make.

I have plans to offer 3 versions.

Model B - A/C and heat for us waterpumpers. Runs recirc through the heater tube holes so no cutting. Unit is too tight of a fit for fresh air. I'll have an optional drainage piece for those that don't seal the grill.

Model A - A/C only for aircooled cars. Because the heater tube holes are being used for heat, air intake will be from the grill opening. You could cut a 2.5" hole in the cowl for recirc instead if you wanted or use just one heat exchanger.

Model H - Heater only for waterpumpers. Same unit as the A/C only except that recirc is possible through the heater hose holes OR model B with no evap, haven't decided yet.

In the kit - Main unit, mounting brackets, air hoses & clamps, blower wiring, expansion valve, instructions.

Options - Cabin filter. Grill water drain.

The other pieces...
Condensers- it depends on the radiator you using and what you can make fit, no point in me trying to keep an inventory. The exception could be a replacement to the DPD/VPC Condenser unit for air-cooled cars, I haven't gotten past doodles yet.
Receiver-driers of the universal type can be had on Ebay for under $15 shipped, I'll pick one out for you, same with the pressure switch.
Hoses, too many variations and too much overhead for me, but Vegas has 3 places that will build them on your car so I assume that's practically everywhere. Prices trend $100-$150.
Hard lines- Research has spec'd it as 6063 aluminum. DPD/VPC used hard lines along the rocker and up the wheel wells.
Heater hose- nothing special about it but it's long and 5/8"ID.

Prices... about the same as the Hotrod kits. Manufacturing time is unknown and the biggest factor of course.

I will have to buy 50+ evap cores to make this happen, so even if you are a year or more away from buying one speak up.

Any feedback and who wants one?
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Chris914n6   Under cowl A/C unit design input thread and gauging interest   Jul 23 2014, 08:24 PM
rnellums   In for H   Jul 23 2014, 10:24 PM
Chris914n6   I promised a pic in another thread. Problem is I c...   Jul 23 2014, 11:03 PM
914dave   I'd be interested in an AC only unit for my si...   Jul 24 2014, 04:38 AM
Chris914n6   I'd be interested in an AC only unit for my s...   Jul 24 2014, 01:43 PM
andys   The smallest aftermarket parallel flow condenser...   Jul 24 2014, 02:49 PM
DBCooper   Model B for me. I'm so happy you're taki...   Jul 24 2014, 06:58 AM
Philip W.   Model A -- so do i understand correctly that thi...   Jul 24 2014, 07:27 AM
pdlightning   Model A -- so do i understand correctly that th...   Jul 24 2014, 12:33 PM
Chris914n6   Model A -- so do i understand correctly that th...   Jul 24 2014, 02:14 PM
76-914   +1 on a B, here.   Jul 24 2014, 01:32 PM
Chris914n6   Ok, a teaser pic... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Jul 25 2014, 01:52 PM
Chris H.   Model B for me.   Jul 25 2014, 02:04 PM
timothy_nd28   Thanks for taking on this project. :beer2: I ha...   Jul 25 2014, 02:52 PM
Chris914n6   Thanks for the Thanks. I live in Vegas, it was kin...   Jul 25 2014, 07:11 PM
racerx9146   As for me, been thinking of this for some time. As...   Jul 25 2014, 07:35 PM
dadaDaveed   Ooh, Model B for me! Texas only has two seaso...   Jul 25 2014, 09:39 PM
7TPorsh   Ya, type B....SoCal like Texas.... :D   Jul 25 2014, 10:05 PM
Chris914n6   :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smas...   Aug 8 2014, 06:51 PM
JmuRiz   A would be great, if only I could find some good h...   Aug 8 2014, 08:30 PM
dadaDaveed   How's it coming along?   Oct 6 2014, 09:35 PM
Cairo94507   Wow AC in a Six would be perfect if it can be done...   Oct 7 2014, 06:44 AM
timothy_nd28   I'm in model B   Oct 7 2014, 08:27 AM
Philip W.   if this is happening for sure(it will be my winter...   Oct 7 2014, 08:51 AM
dlee6204   if this is happening for sure(it will be my winte...   Oct 7 2014, 10:15 AM
Philip W.   if this is happening for sure(it will be my wint...   Oct 7 2014, 01:17 PM
Chris914n6   It's moving at the speed of life.... I should...   Oct 9 2014, 02:31 PM
aircooledboy   I'm in for a Model B. I've spent a lot o...   Nov 10 2014, 09:12 AM
914forme   Updates? Unit B for me please! :beer1:   Jan 16 2015, 02:23 PM
Chris914n6   Almost done building my vacuum forming machine :...   Mar 29 2015, 03:05 PM
Philip W.   :cheer: :beer2:   Mar 29 2015, 03:16 PM
wes   :Qarl:   Mar 29 2015, 04:56 PM
Chris914n6   Damn. Got a couple quotes to have the a/c hoses ma...   Mar 31 2015, 06:44 PM
quadracerx   Ill be in... Once you have inventory and are able ...   Mar 31 2015, 08:13 PM
76-914   :popcorn:   Mar 31 2015, 08:21 PM
Chris914n6   Hella fog light switch question. Are the new ...   Apr 4 2015, 08:34 PM
Mike Bellis   Hurry up! I want to place my order. :D   Apr 4 2015, 08:48 PM
db9146   I'm in for an "A" for an air cooled ...   Apr 4 2015, 08:54 PM
jim_hoyland   :) nice work :) Are you going to show us the pr...   Apr 4 2015, 09:01 PM
kid914   interested in # 2 ( air cooled) :beer2:   Apr 4 2015, 09:10 PM
Gary   How's it going? I'm interested in a model ...   Jun 25 2015, 05:02 AM
timothy_nd28   Did this project stall out :confused:   Aug 9 2015, 12:06 AM
Chris914n6   Stalled yes, but not out. Been a series of unfor...   Aug 9 2015, 11:37 PM
euro911   I'm interested in Model A, Chris. WD HDDs sho...   Aug 10 2015, 04:39 AM
boxsterfan   Would love to learn more about what you are doing?...   Aug 10 2015, 09:12 PM
Chris914n6   boxsterfan- I'm actually making a box that fit...   Aug 11 2015, 01:10 AM
timothy_nd28   Happy to hear that you haven't waived the litt...   Aug 11 2015, 10:57 AM
euro911   Should I keep my old condenser handy? ('70...   Aug 11 2015, 06:27 PM
Chris914n6   timothy_nd28- I'm only selling the unit and th...   Aug 11 2015, 09:03 PM
timothy_nd28   I totally agree with you. Back to my original que...   Aug 11 2015, 09:23 PM
timothy_nd28   Any progress with the under cowl box? :popcorn:   May 8 2016, 07:26 PM
Chris914n6   Essentially stalled pending a car that wants to be...   May 9 2016, 11:00 AM
timothy_nd28   Do you happen to have any prototype boxes that you...   May 9 2016, 12:11 PM
Chris914n6   Only have one working unit. The rest are cardboard...   May 9 2016, 02:50 PM
Gary   I'd be all over one for A/C today if available...   May 12 2016, 04:34 AM
Mowog4   Has anyone come up with a solution yet? I am looki...   Jun 5 2016, 06:07 PM


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