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Price evaluation, getting a sense |
dudzy's914 |
Jul 27 2014, 05:57 PM
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The youngin' Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 21-December 13 From: Hatfield, MA Member No.: 16,784 Region Association: North East States |
I am restoring my 1975 914 2.0l, with stock FI, center console. It will be black with 2.0l fuchs. I am restoring it to ''as it rolled out''.
I want to get a sense of what the car will be worth( I know the market will go up and down). thx |
JeffBowlsby |
Jul 27 2014, 06:05 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,478 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
It depends on how you define 'perfect'.
One member here broke through the $40K ceiling last year. |
dudzy's914 |
Jul 27 2014, 06:15 PM
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The youngin' Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 21-December 13 From: Hatfield, MA Member No.: 16,784 Region Association: North East States |
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Hank914 |
Jul 27 2014, 06:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 389 Joined: 7-April 14 From: CA and OR Member No.: 17,215 Region Association: None |
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dudzy's914 |
Jul 27 2014, 06:22 PM
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The youngin' Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 21-December 13 From: Hatfield, MA Member No.: 16,784 Region Association: North East States |
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scotty b |
Jul 27 2014, 06:28 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
The car will never be worth what you put into it. I've told several if your resto is based on the cars final value, go find a solid, complete 550 in a barn and you'll be o.k.
If the car Jeff is referring to is the one I am thinking of it was ORIGINAL and very low mileage. For a PERFECTLY restored car you could probably drop that by 7500.00-10K. But then again how PERFECT are you planning on ? Buying a frame bench and fixtures to ensure it is in perfect spec? Buying a 23,000.00 spot welder to duplicate the factory welds ? Getting the right amount of orange peel ? Tracking down N.O.S. parts ? Not trying to be an asshat, just pointing out that one mans perfect is another mans nice driver |
dudzy's914 |
Jul 27 2014, 06:42 PM
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The youngin' Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 21-December 13 From: Hatfield, MA Member No.: 16,784 Region Association: North East States |
I won't have to put much into it giving it's already mostly restored
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mepstein |
Jul 27 2014, 06:49 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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dudzy's914 |
Jul 27 2014, 06:56 PM
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The youngin' Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 21-December 13 From: Hatfield, MA Member No.: 16,784 Region Association: North East States |
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Cuda911 |
Jul 27 2014, 09:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,489 Joined: 20-May 14 From: Oceanside (N. San Diego County), CA Member No.: 17,376 Region Association: Southern California |
Rather vague info., dudzy, But if your definition of a "perfect" restoration and mine are similar, I would imagine in the $20 to $25 k range, as a rough ballpark number. But, too many variables, really, to assess your specific car.
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JeffBowlsby |
Jul 27 2014, 11:17 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,478 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
I misremembered...it went for $38K. It had steel wheels no less, bust was as close to a perfect 914/4 as you will ever see.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...205535&st=0 |
KELTY360 |
Jul 28 2014, 06:35 AM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,031 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Have you looked closely at any fully restored 914s? For high $$ cars, it's the details that count. Fit and finish of body panels, correct plating of fasteners, perfect trim, correct wiring and hoses, meticulous detailing. Documentation of mechanical servicing and past ownership is also important. There is a big difference between a refurbished car and a restored car. Do the research to understand how high the bar is set for the top dollar cars.
Good luck. |
carr914 |
Jul 28 2014, 06:52 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,160 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I won't have to put much into it giving it's already mostly restored "Restored" is a tricky word. Really all I have to do is bodywork/paint. And a few odds and ends Then you have $7,000 to 10,000 worth of work to do to make it perfect! |
johannes |
Jul 28 2014, 07:46 AM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
What also will change the value is
Does it have sway bars installed ? 75 cars are less valuable due to the heavy big bumpers. Is this a Californian car with catalysator ? |
dudzy's914 |
Jul 28 2014, 09:52 AM
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The youngin' Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 21-December 13 From: Hatfield, MA Member No.: 16,784 Region Association: North East States |
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 28 2014, 11:33 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Some of us that attended or visited the Parade this year in Monterey had a chance to see the restored '72 911 that was featured in Pano. This car was a clear case of the definition of "over restored" NO Porsche EVER left the factory in that condition. EVER. While the 914 was, for the time, a pretty nice car off the assembly line, none were up to the standards of the 911. A perfect restoration, one with ONLY the original equipment and NO aftermarket sourced parts, would (as Scotty mentioned) have "just" the right amount of orange peel in the paint, the correct factory applied undercoat, the paint marks applied to confirm final assembly torques (including the ones on the lug bolts, a sort of frosty looking light green), applied at just the right angles, no radio or antenna, period appropriate tires, a Varta battery, fuses of the correct shade of white, blue, and red, and many other little details that few people really know. Even the crappy, insufficient spot welds in the under-designed trunk hinge brackets. It will have the correctly colored vacuum hoses as delivered, and the hidden (and not-hidden) assembly numbers. Anything less than this is a "refurbishing", anything more is a "personalization", not a restoration. Can that be done?. Probably. Would I want to spend the kind of money and the YEARS it would take to source all that stuff? Probably not in this lifetime. Could you get your money (and time!) out of it. Maybe yes, as there are fools out there with waaaaay too much money and a corresponding inverse level of sense. Whether some bizarre happenstance throws you, the seller, and that particular buyer together at the same place and at the same time is a matter of chance and luck. Mostly, you're gonna lose your butt on the project.
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dudzy's914 |
Jul 28 2014, 11:39 AM
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The youngin' Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 21-December 13 From: Hatfield, MA Member No.: 16,784 Region Association: North East States |
Thats guys, I have decided on another path.
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scotty b |
Jul 28 2014, 11:41 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
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dudzy's914 |
Jul 28 2014, 01:18 PM
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The youngin' Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 21-December 13 From: Hatfield, MA Member No.: 16,784 Region Association: North East States |
Absolutely not! I'm not a trader! ...another path with my 2.0l. Not going as high-end |
PanelBilly |
Jul 28 2014, 05:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,797 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It's an evil road to make a car close to original. Seems everything you touch needs to be renewed in a matter that takes not only skill but research. Do what you like and hope someone else shares your vision.
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