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> anyone played with boxster gauge cluster?
skeates
post Jul 29 2014, 09:57 PM
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Hey guys - I'm not sure if this is a subject that has been beaten to death before (I certainly wasn't able to find any threads on it), but has anyone here ever attempted to make use of the boxster or cousin 996 gauge clusters in a conversion? I was able to find a pin-out diagram for the boxster cluster which makes it look doable. Just curious if there was any fancy shmancy communications between the cluster and the ECU that would need to be worked around?
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post Sep 21 2014, 04:36 PM
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Great work!

On a slightly related note:
Just today I got my arduino datalogger working.
It can read 8 analog voltage inputs, rpm (from a standard points setup or MSD 12V tach signal), and serial data from an innovate system.
It then logs data to microSD, and outputs it over USB to be displayed by a droid phone.

It also can control one "alarm light" and a shift light.

So with what you have reverse engineered here, you could easily plug that instrument cluster onto my arduino DL and drive all of the interfaces on the cluster while logging data...

hmmm.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Sep 22 2014, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Sep 20 2014, 04:20 PM) *

The link on wiki has some suggestions for driver chips, too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I have faith that you will be able to get the stuff you have to work. I likely have the guts from a stock fuel gauge if you end up going that route. No need to destroy a good one.


Thanks for the encouragement (and the parts)! Not sure anymore if the stock fuel gauge guts can be made to work since it's a stepper motor? I'm sure that there's got to be a pretty snazzy hardware solution to this.


QUOTE(stugray @ Sep 21 2014, 03:36 PM) *

Great work!

On a slightly related note:
Just today I got my arduino datalogger working.
It can read 8 analog voltage inputs, rpm (from a standard points setup or MSD 12V tach signal), and serial data from an innovate system.
It then logs data to microSD, and outputs it over USB to be displayed by a droid phone.

It also can control one "alarm light" and a shift light.

So with what you have reverse engineered here, you could easily plug that instrument cluster onto my arduino DL and drive all of the interfaces on the cluster while logging data...

hmmm.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


That sounds way cool - and totally doable! The gauges/motors are all mounted on a separate plastic frame which can be separated very cleanly from the circuit board. The only thing you'll loose are the LCD displays if you chuck the board. That said, the other gauges were really easy to make work without any ECU trickery (just standard signals). The fuel gauge is the only "problem" piece to this whole puzzle. So - you might be better off keeping the Boxster cluster electronics in there and just isolating the pins on the fuel gauge. That way you can keep the digital speedo, clock, and odometer.

And, on that note, I had a breakthrough this evening and now have things worked out to control the fuel level using a potentiometer! The motor itself is still controlled by an arduino which takes as an input the voltage across the potentiometer. Added a rudimentary smoothing function to try and smooth out the signal, but as you can see in the video there are still some bugs in the software. One thing I'd like to figure out is whether or not there is a way to" zero" the motor without bumping it off its bottom stop. I the long run I can live with it, but It would be nice to not have it do a bouncy jig at the bottom of the gauge every time I turn the ignition on. Anyways - concept is there, now comes the fun bit of converting the concept into a practical application.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfSpp4YkERY
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skeates   anyone played with boxster gauge cluster?   Jul 29 2014, 09:57 PM
Dave_Darling   Depending on the year of Boxster/996, the answer a...   Jul 29 2014, 10:14 PM
jd74914   I would be highly surprised if the newer stuff did...   Jul 30 2014, 06:02 AM
stugray   If you have the pinouts, please post them. I have...   Jul 30 2014, 07:16 AM
skeates   If you have the pinouts, please post them. I hav...   Jul 30 2014, 02:48 PM
Mike Bellis   I'm running a 2000 VW cluster and it does comm...   Jul 30 2014, 07:45 AM
skeates   @ Dave_Darling: I figured anything 2004 or newer w...   Jul 30 2014, 02:45 PM
jd74914   You are running an Infinity? Which one? We looke...   Jul 31 2014, 07:41 AM
skeates   You are running an Infinity? Which one? We look...   Jul 31 2014, 10:19 AM
jd74914   You are running an Infinity? Which one? We loo...   Jul 31 2014, 11:23 AM
CptTripps   Looking forward to seeing progress. Those clusters...   Jul 31 2014, 09:14 AM
skeates   Ok, I bit the bullet and purchased a boxster gauge...   Sep 3 2014, 05:44 PM
skeates   The local hardware store was having a sale on the ...   Sep 3 2014, 05:52 PM
Dave_Darling   One thing I have heard that is important here, if ...   Sep 3 2014, 06:14 PM
skeates   One thing I have heard that is important here, if...   Sep 3 2014, 06:26 PM
skeates   So, until someone tells me this is cluttering up t...   Sep 15 2014, 01:07 PM
SirAndy   :trophy: That looks better than i thought it wou...   Sep 15 2014, 01:22 PM
purple505uk   So, until someone tells me this is cluttering up ...   Oct 26 2015, 02:07 PM
Dr Evil   Wow, very nice work :)   Sep 17 2014, 07:36 AM
Sleepin   Sweet! :popcorn:   Sep 17 2014, 08:49 AM
boxsterfan   Fuchin' awesome!!   Sep 17 2014, 09:05 AM
Dr Evil   Question, just say you have to rely on the engines...   Sep 17 2014, 09:22 AM
skeates   Question, just say you have to rely on the engine...   Sep 17 2014, 06:34 PM
timothy_nd28   It would be difficult to defeat the ECU communicat...   Sep 17 2014, 09:35 PM
skeates   It would be difficult to defeat the ECU communica...   Sep 19 2014, 03:43 PM
worn   It would be difficult to defeat the ECU communica...   Sep 19 2014, 07:13 PM
CptTripps   :agree: with Andy. This looks a TON better than I ...   Sep 18 2014, 08:45 AM
Dr Evil   Oooooo :) I like the splicing into the OE motor m...   Sep 19 2014, 03:47 PM
timothy_nd28   To see how this air core motor is wired internally...   Sep 19 2014, 04:07 PM
skeates   To see how this air core motor is wired internall...   Sep 19 2014, 04:45 PM
timothy_nd28   Ok. If you reset the board and have the fuel gauge...   Sep 19 2014, 07:53 PM
904svo   From the reading you have a stepper motor gas gaug...   Sep 19 2014, 08:14 PM
skeates   From the reading you have a stepper motor gas gau...   Sep 21 2014, 04:09 PM
skeates   Just finished taking some voltage readings on the ...   Sep 19 2014, 11:28 PM
timothy_nd28   Is the needle fixed at full level but the voltages...   Sep 19 2014, 11:35 PM
skeates   Is the needle fixed at full level but the voltage...   Sep 20 2014, 12:03 AM
Dr Evil   While I dig the scholastic effort in figuring out ...   Sep 20 2014, 08:04 AM
timothy_nd28   No, the voltages do not oscillate as in a motor, b...   Sep 20 2014, 08:08 AM
skeates   While I dig the scholastic effort in figuring out...   Sep 20 2014, 03:55 PM
Dr Evil   Fascinating. I have never heard of aircore gauges....   Sep 20 2014, 08:15 AM
timothy_nd28   In my signature, i did a write up on how to do a t...   Sep 20 2014, 08:57 AM
Dr Evil   Looked at it, bumped it :) Good stuff. Would the...   Sep 20 2014, 11:27 AM
timothy_nd28   Absolutely using the original sender, everything w...   Sep 20 2014, 11:48 AM
timothy_nd28   Absolutely using the original sender, everything w...   Sep 20 2014, 11:49 AM
Dr Evil   Badass!   Sep 20 2014, 12:20 PM
timothy_nd28   We will help you with the calculations needed for ...   Sep 20 2014, 04:49 PM
Dr Evil   The link on wiki has some suggestions for driver c...   Sep 20 2014, 05:20 PM
stugray   Great work! On a slightly related note: Just...   Sep 21 2014, 04:36 PM
skeates   The link on wiki has some suggestions for driver ...   Sep 22 2014, 12:37 AM
CptTripps   That's just bad ass....   Sep 22 2014, 07:59 AM
timothy_nd28   Awesome! Sorry for sending you down a wrong p...   Sep 22 2014, 11:20 AM
skeates   Awesome! Sorry for sending you down a wrong ...   Sep 22 2014, 12:05 PM
Scott S   Wow. I have never felt dumber. There are some smar...   Sep 22 2014, 12:01 PM
Philip W.   Wow. I have never felt dumber. There are some sma...   Sep 23 2014, 07:31 AM
Dr Evil   Not that it matters now, since you have been exper...   Sep 23 2014, 07:15 AM
ruby914   Nice work Skeates! The Boxter cluster up agai...   Sep 23 2014, 10:02 AM
skeates   Not that it matters now, since you have been expe...   Sep 23 2014, 10:57 AM
Dr Evil   All of my shit is in boxes in the back of a truck ...   Sep 23 2014, 05:52 PM
Chris914n6   Cluster fit doesn't look too far off. The loop...   Sep 25 2014, 02:27 AM


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