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> Is door gap widening when car is lifted normal?
doug_b_928
post Aug 10 2014, 08:10 PM
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I lifted my car for the first time today. The longs have rust and the gap at the top of the door widened (the weight of the rear of the car was pulling it down such that the door gap opened more at the top (see pic below).

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I'd say it was double what it is when the wheels are on the ground. So, I won't be surprised if this is because of the rust having weakened the chassis (in fact, I'm glad that it didn't snap off completely), but I'm wondering if some widening like this is normal when the car is lifted from the jack point areas (i.e., using a two post lift) and, if so, how much one should expect.

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post Aug 10 2014, 08:27 PM
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The car new would have none- no change. Joe Sharp -a well known name on this forum- told me to open both doors and have a 225 lb. person stand on the door sill and jump. I would not do that on that car I would go straight to repairs. Gordon
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post Aug 10 2014, 08:44 PM
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That car has cancer. Probably bad if the gaps are opening up.

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post Aug 10 2014, 09:03 PM
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rust free you say ?
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bad news. All that bubbling under the gold decal isn't a good sign either. More likely than not, the bottom of the door jamb is also shot.
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post Aug 10 2014, 09:18 PM
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Yes, the car has lots of cancer. Good to know that the gaps shouldn't widen. Would the gap pictured above be from the weakness in the area where the longs intersect the firewall? The rust on this car is similar to the 'bringing out the dead' and 'digging into hell' threads, but they didn't mention anything about sagging like this.
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post Aug 10 2014, 09:28 PM
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Straight to repairs. Don't mess with it too much or the door won't close any more. I had one that collapsed on the floor when We stood on the rocker with the door open.
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post Aug 10 2014, 09:46 PM
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You better asses or post pics
It might not be safe on the road any longer
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post Aug 10 2014, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Aug 10 2014, 07:10 PM) *
Is door gap widening when car is lifted normal?

Nope ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 11 2014, 05:54 AM
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I removed the engine (was a little puckered being under it knowing it was sagging), and the door gaps were just as big without the weight of the engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 11 2014, 07:55 AM
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It's time to start shopping for a CA or AZ roller!
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post Aug 11 2014, 07:59 AM
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But that would be too easy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 11 2014, 08:18 AM
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OK, then shop for a welder!

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post Aug 11 2014, 08:40 AM
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post Aug 11 2014, 05:47 PM
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And once you assess and get a welder go here:

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post Aug 11 2014, 05:55 PM
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Yeah, that's the plan. BTW, the reason I'm not planning to go the roller route is because this is my first car and I'm hoping to save it (but not at any cost).
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post Aug 11 2014, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Aug 11 2014, 05:55 PM) *

the reason I'm not planning to go the roller route is because this is my first car and I'm hoping to save it (but not at any cost).


Do you mean "This was my very first car and I have a sentimental attachment to it"
OR
"I just bought this and is my very first car"
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post Aug 11 2014, 06:13 PM
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That's understandable. The good news is that most of the panels are available that you will probably need. Get it all apart and post some pics. Most likely your longs are very rusty. You'll want to check the suspension ears while you're at it.

Depending on your budget you might want to have someone else get it back to structurally solid and do the rest yourself. Rick 918-S lives in Duluth. He has a Celette bench and his work very well-known. You have to get it lined up just right when you replace the longs or the doors will never line up right.



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post Aug 11 2014, 06:20 PM
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Yeah, I've already been in touch with Rick and RD. I wish I could drop the car off and have it completely done, but that's not in the budget. Once I get into it I'll know better how best to proceed.
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post Aug 11 2014, 06:23 PM
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Stugray, sorry I didn't see your post. This was my very first car. There is a thread here about it (1973 914 was/is my first car). Apparently it was used and abused before I bought it back in 1985. Must have been winter driven. I noticed yesterday that it even has a block heater installed.
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post Aug 11 2014, 07:47 PM
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Nothing that a lot of time and money won't fix. Welcome to the restoration club.
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