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| jeffdon |
 Aug 23 2014, 02:53 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None  |
Here is a pic of my new speedo cable. This is the tranny end. The boot appears to be on the wrong way. Got this from the bird. Any one else have this issue? I am starting to loose faith in these guys.
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| Dr Evil |
Aug 23 2014, 03:19 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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How is that on the wrong way? It is supposed to slide over the collar that you screw onto the speedo drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| mepstein |
Aug 23 2014, 03:33 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,238 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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its correct. you'll see when you install.
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| jeffdon |
Aug 23 2014, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 23 2014, 02:33 PM)  its correct. you'll see when you install. How can it be right? I tried inverting the boot while on the cable, and it looks nothing like the one I just cut off my car. I am pretty sure this got put on wrong at the factory. I see no way of getting it off and re-installing the other way. |
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| Dr Evil |
Aug 23 2014, 03:48 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct.
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| JawjaPorsche |
Aug 23 2014, 04:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 05:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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| jeffdon |
Aug 23 2014, 06:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 02:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. Isn't this a boot that is to go over the tube in the fire wall? |
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| mepstein |
Aug 23 2014, 06:44 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,238 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 08:25 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 02:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. Isn't this a boot that is to go over the tube in the fire wall? No. Read above. |
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| jeffdon |
Aug 23 2014, 08:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 23 2014, 05:44 PM) QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 08:25 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 02:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. Isn't this a boot that is to go over the tube in the fire wall? No. Read above. Ok, the cable has two boots. On that fits snugly over the end that screws to the speedo. The one in the picture fits well over the angle drive connection, but there is no boot for the tube where the cable goes into the tube in the firewall. That would need to be on the cable already, right? |
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| bluhun |
Aug 24 2014, 01:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-January 06 From: San Rafael, CA Member No.: 5,464 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 07:05 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 23 2014, 05:44 PM) QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 08:25 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 02:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. Isn't this a boot that is to go over the tube in the fire wall? No. Read above. Ok, the cable has two boots. On that fits snugly over the end that screws to the speedo. The one in the picture fits well over the angle drive connection, but there is no boot for the tube where the cable goes into the tube in the firewall. That would need to be on the cable already, right? I have the same issue. The problem is that the boots on the cable were installed incorrectly at the factory, i.e., the boot that should seal at the firewall is down at the speedo angle drive end and the boot that is supposed to slip over the angle drive is at the end that goes through the firewall. At least that is the problem with my cable. |
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| bluhun |
Aug 24 2014, 02:05 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-January 06 From: San Rafael, CA Member No.: 5,464 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 07:05 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 23 2014, 05:44 PM) QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 08:25 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 02:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. Isn't this a boot that is to go over the tube in the fire wall? No. Read above. Ok, the cable has two boots. On that fits snugly over the end that screws to the speedo. The one in the picture fits well over the angle drive connection, but there is no boot for the tube where the cable goes into the tube in the firewall. That would need to be on the cable already, right? The cable is supposed to have two boots, one for the speedometer angle drive, which you have, and another for the speedometer end. It appears that you only have the boot that fits over the speedo angle drive. My cable has both boots but they were put on backwards at the factory. It appears that there's a serious quality control issue at the factory. |
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| bluhun |
Aug 24 2014, 02:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-January 06 From: San Rafael, CA Member No.: 5,464 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 07:05 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 23 2014, 05:44 PM) QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 08:25 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 02:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. Isn't this a boot that is to go over the tube in the fire wall? No. Read above. Ok, the cable has two boots. On that fits snugly over the end that screws to the speedo. The one in the picture fits well over the angle drive connection, but there is no boot for the tube where the cable goes into the tube in the firewall. That would need to be on the cable already, right? My observation directly above regarding your cable is incorrect. What you have is the boot that fits over the tube at the firewall, fitted backwards on the cable. What you appear to be missing is the smaller boot that seals at the speedometer angle drive. Sorry for the confusion. |
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| jeffdon |
Aug 24 2014, 06:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(bluhun @ Aug 24 2014, 01:20 AM) QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 07:05 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 23 2014, 05:44 PM) QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 08:25 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 02:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. Isn't this a boot that is to go over the tube in the fire wall? No. Read above. Ok, the cable has two boots. On that fits snugly over the end that screws to the speedo. The one in the picture fits well over the angle drive connection, but there is no boot for the tube where the cable goes into the tube in the firewall. That would need to be on the cable already, right? My observation directly above regarding your cable is incorrect. What you have is the boot that fits over the tube at the firewall, fitted backwards on the cable. What you appear to be missing is the smaller boot that seals at the speedometer angle drive. Sorry for the confusion. Thats what I thought. So there should be a total of three boots, right? |
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| bluhun |
Aug 24 2014, 09:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-January 06 From: San Rafael, CA Member No.: 5,464 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 24 2014, 05:41 AM) QUOTE(bluhun @ Aug 24 2014, 01:20 AM) QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 07:05 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 23 2014, 05:44 PM) QUOTE(jeffdon @ Aug 23 2014, 08:25 PM) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Aug 23 2014, 02:48 PM) Jeff, I am not following you. You dont take it off. You screw the collar onto the speedo drive and then slide the rubber cuff over the collar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) That pic you have is correct. I have no idea what you had, but the pic is correct. Isn't this a boot that is to go over the tube in the fire wall? No. Read above. Ok, the cable has two boots. On that fits snugly over the end that screws to the speedo. The one in the picture fits well over the angle drive connection, but there is no boot for the tube where the cable goes into the tube in the firewall. That would need to be on the cable already, right? My observation directly above regarding your cable is incorrect. What you have is the boot that fits over the tube at the firewall, fitted backwards on the cable. What you appear to be missing is the smaller boot that seals at the speedometer angle drive. Sorry for the confusion. Thats what I thought. So there should be a total of three boots, right? No, just two boots. The smaller one fits over the speedo angle drive and the large one (the one in your picture) fits at the firewall. |
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| Dr Evil |
Aug 25 2014, 08:37 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Here is the official pic from the PET. The lower part is the part that attaches to the transmission. Upper attaches either to the gauge or the angle drive depending on year.
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| Dr Evil |
Sep 5 2014, 06:50 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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OK, I just replaced my speedo cable with a new Gemo one and now understand the issue that prompted the start of this thread.
See the pics. The old and the new are different. The boot on the firewall end is too small on the new one, and the collar on the gauge end is not captive like on the OE one. Makes for a bit of fun. Best way to install is to put tape on the gauge end just behind the collar to keep the collar from sliding back. Attached image(s)  
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| eyesright |
Sep 5 2014, 08:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 8-January 12 From: OK Member No.: 13,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I have bought two cables for two cars in the past two years and both are wrong. I wasn't smart enough to send them back and complain...figured I just didn't understand these things yet... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) ...but they're on now and driving. Grrrr. I should have posted here and learned something. The next one will be returned to the supplier.
Thanks guys. |
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| Dr Evil |
Sep 5 2014, 09:15 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I bet if we get Glenns attention to this thread he may be able to enact a change (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I dont remember his screen name.
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| Jacco |
Sep 5 2014, 02:06 PM
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Designated Dutchman Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 23-February 04 From: the Netherlands Member No.: 1,703 Region Association: Europe |
Had the same experiece with the speedo cable.
Asked the question about the rubber boots to a couple of european resellers with pictures as above, comes down to this: factory claims they are exactly according to factory drawing. I decided to heat the rubber in hot water and carefully removed it to place it back correctly. Jacco |
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| rgalla9146 |
Sep 5 2014, 07:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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I don't know about the bulkhead boot.
I do know that the angle drive boot on any replacement cable that I've seen in twenty years has been wrong. I'm lucky, I have one real original. Now I have to check the bulkhead boot. |
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