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Trailing Arm Bushings, What material to select? |
malcolm2 |
Aug 30 2014, 09:45 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
Here's the link to the Rebelracingproducts.com page that shows their rear bushing set for the 914. http://www.rebelracingproducts.com/SuspSteerpage2.html I guess i'll call. Need to ask if $199 does a car or a side. They spell it out on the part above for another car, but it is not clear for the 914. That is for both sides! Yes, I did get in touch Friday morning on the secondary phone #. He said they were out and they would be re-stocked shortly. He took my name and number. I asked what "shortly" meant and he said maybe 2 weeks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) And yes on the SET. $199 for both rear pivot arms with 2 bushing each. I did get that confirmation. I'll give them two weeks then I have to get moving, so I'll do something else. love the hair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif) Clark |
MikeM |
Aug 30 2014, 09:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
But these are poly bushings right? Not rubber. Will they creak and groan and squeek like everyone is saying poly bushings will do? I'd love to hear from someone that actually has these on their car.
Mike |
malcolm2 |
Aug 30 2014, 10:11 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
I'd love to hear from someone that actually has these on their car. Mike I am with you on that: pictures vs. a cartoon and a few testimonials (Do they squeak?)! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Pulled from the website: Rebel S Racing (RSR) Products 914 Rear Bushing Set Fits: 914 rear trailing arms With the overwhelming success and popularity of our 911 series bushings, we designed this 914 rear trailing arm bushing set. *Super low coefficients of dynamic friction. *Utilizes modern technology, Thermoplastic PTFE (Teflon) impregnated self lubricating polymer bushing liners. *Replaces factory rubber bushings. *Precision shim pack is included for ease of installation and optimal alignment. *Installation instructions included. *Provides absolute minimal deflection of rear trailing arm pivot points. *Holds rear toe settings in place under load *Guaranteed to last as long as you own your car! *Proprietary Rebel S Racing (RSR Products) design added my thoughts: |
MikeM |
Aug 30 2014, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
I'm pretty sure they have the wrong image there....
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lonewolfe |
Aug 30 2014, 02:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
These bushings fit around the trailing arm shaft and go inside the control arm like the original rubber bushings do. The material is a composite Teflon impregnated material. I have a front set which is made of the same material. They are silent and never require any lubrication so no need for zirc fittings etc... The fronts fit over a stainless sleeve that is attached the control arm ends and the composite sleeve rides on those stainless sleeves. The stainless sleeves look very similar to what Elephant racing uses. The difference is there is no urethane material riding on the sleeve that requires lubrication. These are two solid pieces that fit precisely over each other. These should last the life of the car once installed.
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jimkelly |
Aug 30 2014, 02:59 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think with elephant, it is not the urethane that needs lubrication, it is the surface between the steel bushing and the bronze bushing. the urethane should hold firm to the trailing arm.
http://www.elephantracing.com/suspension/b...914bushings.htm |
MikeM |
Aug 30 2014, 05:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
With respect to the rear trailing arm bushings, if you had a choice between the Rebel Racing bushings, or the Elephant rubber bushings, which would you choose?
Street car only. |
MikeM |
Aug 31 2014, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
Bump for comments??
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lonewolfe |
Aug 31 2014, 01:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
Both are good high quality solutions. For me, the Rebel Racing edges out a win because they have no need for lubrication or any maintenance. As for performance I'd say both are great and should last a long time!
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shane |
Aug 31 2014, 04:13 PM
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Both are good high quality solutions. For me, the Rebel Racing edges out a win because they have no need for lubrication or any maintenance. As for performance I'd say both are great and should last a long time! Elephant racing rubber bushings worked great for me no lube or maintenance because they are rubber. I think if you ask you can just buy the bushings and not the special tool to press them in. You can PM me. |
malcolm2 |
Sep 9 2014, 07:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
UPDATE: I conversed with Jonathon and Clint at Rebel Racing and ended up buying their rear Trailing Arm bushing set up. I am in TN and they are in CA, so if they shipped them Friday, I might have them Thursday.
I liked the comments on here, * folks preferred the rebel product, * their price for a complete set was about $100 cheaper than some Elephant sellers * and the BIG one... Jonathon told me that they do not squeak. He claims to have them on front and back of a 911. Clark |
chads74 |
Sep 9 2014, 08:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 13-March 12 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 14,252 Region Association: South East States |
UPDATE: I conversed with Jonathon and Clint at Rebel Racing and ended up buying their rear Trailing Arm bushing set up. I am in TN and they are in CA, so if they shipped them Friday, I might have them Thursday. I liked the comments on here, * folks preferred the rebel product, * their price for a complete set was about $100 cheaper than some Elephant sellers * and the BIG one... Jonathon told me that they do not squeak. He claims to have them on front and back of a 911. Clark I am interested in seeing these bushing and looking forward to an update. I have been draggin my feet with a set of poly bushings that have been sitting on my work bench for months. Now I might need to rethink, because it I go to the trouble to hone and install and end up with a squeek I'll be pissed! Please update once you get the rebel bushings. |
crash914 |
Sep 9 2014, 10:48 AM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
squeaking sucks, that's all I hear on my video camera during AX runs....I can't even hear the motor over the squeeks...I am going to install needle bearings.
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HalfMoon |
Sep 9 2014, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: 13-November 12 From: Shenandoah Junction, WV Member No.: 15,144 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So odd.
I did poly's on my rears with zerks and they're quiet as a ghost |
malcolm2 |
Sep 13 2014, 11:09 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
Please update once you get the rebel bushings. 2nd UPDATE: I had hoped to have the order by now. Turns out it took them a week to put it in a box and ship it. Actually 8 days cause they didn't get it in the Thursday US mail. They SAID and their site mentions 1 day turn around. oh well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I do have a tracking # and the box is moving and they did ship 2 day. So I guess I should have them on Monday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
MikeM |
Sep 13 2014, 11:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
It would be great if you would continue to keep us posted.
Thanks |
Larmo63 |
Sep 13 2014, 11:46 AM
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We are all waiting to see these mythical parts…….. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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malcolm2 |
Sep 15 2014, 01:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
We are all waiting to see these mythical parts…….. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I just tracked them once again and it does not say OUT FOR DELIVERY like UPS does. But it does say that the item left the NASHVILLE PO at 3 am this morning. So I figure it will be in the route driver's truck and might be at my house now. I sure hope my dog does not chase him away. I have a scared-ee cat mailman. 1 of them is fine, one of them even wears surgical gloves. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Fingers are crossed. Clark UPDATE: NOTHING arrived today. What good is the tracking system, I ask? |
lonewolfe |
Sep 15 2014, 08:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
I finally got time to take some pictures of the Rebel Racing rear control arm bushings. There's a machined metal tube with the secret material inner bushings. The control arm shaft fits down the middle of the machined tube while gliding on the teflon inpregnated bushings.
So, these bushing are mythical no more! They exist! |
MikeM |
Sep 16 2014, 08:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 16-May 10 From: Calgary, Canada Member No.: 11,733 Region Association: Canada |
Pictures say a thousand words!!! Thanks.
Now to find out if they truly are quiet...... |
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