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| scotty b |
Sep 8 2014, 08:01 PM
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
My 914 is running and my 911 is in jack stands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That said, an older 911 is similar in many ways but the overall "build" feels more solid. There's that familiar "cling/clunk" when the door is closed. Drive a well sorted one for a while and it fits like a glove. Those two headlight humps and a hood that slopes to the pavement end up making you feel like your one with the car and the road. The 914 has a feeling of oneness too but, it feels more stable and predictable as you power out of a corner. I'm sure you've heard or read it a million times, you get a sense of control over the impending rotation if you really stick your foot into it. My 911 felt like it would get me to "it's" limit and surely bite me if I went beyond it. Trailing throttle oversteer is a real phenomenon. You'll find yourself "bouncing along" in a chicane if you push it too hard then let off... In a corner on the street, you might be in big trouble. Get a driver like Vic Elford behind the wheel and he'll use it as a steering wheel and beat the pants off everyone else. So an older 911 (to me) feels like a more solid build but, it can have some bad habits if pushed beyond it or your capabilities. A 914 can be more "flexi" with its roof configuration and all but it's noticeably more predictable in its handling. That's my $.06 So it's confirmed. you think you're 3x more impotent than anyone else here ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
| SKL1 |
Sep 8 2014, 08:57 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Have had several over the years. Will keep both 914's in the family as I've had the '71 since new, but nice to share the garage with a 911. Have a .2 GT3 and that should stay in the family too as it will probably be the last "real" 911 with the proper 3 pedals etc!
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| porbmw |
Sep 8 2014, 11:04 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 10-September 08 From: Vancouver, B.C. Member No.: 9,534 Region Association: None
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Yes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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| Eric_Shea |
Sep 9 2014, 07:39 AM
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,304 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
My 914 is running and my 911 is in jack stands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That said, an older 911 is similar in many ways but the overall "build" feels more solid. There's that familiar "cling/clunk" when the door is closed. Drive a well sorted one for a while and it fits like a glove. Those two headlight humps and a hood that slopes to the pavement end up making you feel like your one with the car and the road. The 914 has a feeling of oneness too but, it feels more stable and predictable as you power out of a corner. I'm sure you've heard or read it a million times, you get a sense of control over the impending rotation if you really stick your foot into it. My 911 felt like it would get me to "it's" limit and surely bite me if I went beyond it. Trailing throttle oversteer is a real phenomenon. You'll find yourself "bouncing along" in a chicane if you push it too hard then let off... In a corner on the street, you might be in big trouble. Get a driver like Vic Elford behind the wheel and he'll use it as a steering wheel and beat the pants off everyone else. So an older 911 (to me) feels like a more solid build but, it can have some bad habits if pushed beyond it or your capabilities. A 914 can be more "flexi" with its roof configuration and all but it's noticeably more predictable in its handling. That's my $.06 So it's confirmed. you think you're 3x more impotent than anyone else here ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) No. I just babble 3x more than I should. |
| dcheek |
Sep 9 2014, 09:21 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
This is my 1989 911 Carrera. Last of the "Accordion Bumper" coupes. They only made 1100+ coupes that year. That was a transitional year where the 964 C4 911 was introduced and the Carreras where phased out. I always wanted a 911 and this one happened to come up for sale in our local PCA Region. I bought it 12 years ago with 1794 miles and I'm the 3rd owner! Yes I paid top dollar, but it was essentially a new car. I was lured by the low mileage and the color combination (Grand Prix White with Burgundy interior) not for the fact it was the last run of the Carreras. It's a wonderful car to drive with tons of torque and rock solid, with one of the best shifters I've ever experienced, namely the G50. I love this car. It's a completely different driving experience in that you sit higher and is much more powerful than my 914. I can't pick one over the other though. I like them both for their own virtues. But, there is something to be said for having 6 air cooled cylinders. I guess that's why the 914-6's are so cherished. That, and the limited production numbers are driving the 6 prices through the roof! All I know is that 60-80K can get you some serious 911. I'm just saying.....
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| oldschool |
Sep 9 2014, 11:24 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,374 Joined: 29-October 08 From: P-town Member No.: 9,705 Region Association: Southern California |
OK never owned or driven a 911 as a DD, But have one now for about 12years . (1975 911S) needs a complete redo from seats to body work. I pulled the engine out of the car thinking I would go through it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) that never happen.(2.7) I've been trying to get it over to Ron's forever now to take a look at the 2.7
My wife is on me to get the 911 out of the side driveway. She like's the 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) So here is my plan. I love the 914 ( had 4 so far) my white 914 (Im the 2nd owner) is a driver but not a DD. So this is what I'm thinking The 911 is getting a type 4 in it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif) I've also have owned 2 912 a 68 and a 76...the E was a fun car to cruz not fast but very fun. I would like to have a running project car! while somehow I get the 6 up and running..... P.S. one of my daughters has claimed the 911 hers, not sure I would the kind of power at her feet.(she kind of a lead foot) And of course plans do change. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
| AZ914 |
Sep 9 2014, 12:10 PM
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914 Dumbass ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,469 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson Member No.: 98 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Does a 993 count as a 911? I've got a '97 993 and love it. Wifey way prefers the 993 as it is very quiet and comfortable. Hell yeah that counts! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Me too: Attached image(s)
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| ripper911 |
Sep 9 2014, 12:47 PM
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corde pulsum tangite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,920 Joined: 25-April 10 From: Powder Springs, GA Member No.: 11,654 Region Association: South East States |
It's air-cooled. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| tumamilhem |
Sep 10 2014, 01:47 AM
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LUFTBRIGADE ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 29-October 12 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 15,092 Region Association: South East States |
This is my 1989 911 Carrera. Last of the "Accordion Bumper" coupes. They only made 1100+ coupes that year. That was a transitional year where the 964 C4 911 was introduced and the Carreras where phased out. I always wanted a 911 and this one happened to come up for sale in our local PCA Region. I bought it 12 years ago with 1794 miles and I'm the 3rd owner! Yes I paid top dollar, but it was essentially a new car. I was lured by the low mileage and the color combination (Grand Prix White with Burgundy interior) not for the fact it was the last run of the Carreras. It's a wonderful car to drive with tons of torque and rock solid, with one of the best shifters I've ever experienced, namely the G50. I love this car. It's a completely different driving experience in that you sit higher and is much more powerful than my 914. I can't pick one over the other though. I like them both for their own virtues. But, there is something to be said for having 6 air cooled cylinders. I guess that's why the 914-6's are so cherished. That, and the limited production numbers are driving the 6 prices through the roof! All I know is that 60-80K can get you some serious 911. I'm just saying..... ![]() That's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm pretty much set on an 88-89 Carrera, pref coupe but will consider a targa (no convertible). Still weighing the pros and cons between an SC and a G50 Carrera. For those of you who own either, advice is appreciated. I love the 914. I've had 3 and will always have 1. I was considering getting (in addition to my LE) a /6 conversion or an SC or late 80's Carrera. I've pretty much decided to go the 911 route but still deciding which one to get. |
| cary |
Sep 10 2014, 06:16 AM
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I have this one. 2250#. But I'd like to add a 964 to the team. I'd like something with working A/C. A wine & cheese car. But with the Singer thing going on they're getting expensive
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| SixerJ |
Sep 10 2014, 07:48 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 24-June 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,042 Region Association: England |
Eric's comments are spot on re handling. Back in 1996 I found my 72S after 2 years of looking. 4 weeks after purchase & while gingerly driving to work on a frosty and very cold winter morning I managed to do a double 360 on a motorway slip lane on black ice
Fortunately I was only doing about 20mph and there was nothing around me. 200 yds up the road was a 38 Ton arctic on the hard shoulder and a destroyed Volvo. Clearly he wasn't quite so lucky with the traffic I learnt an important lesson that day, don't instinctively lift completely off, I'm no Vic Elford and 911's (least the early ones) bite if not treated with respect The breathed on 2.4 MFI 911 is a pocket rocket and a hoot to drive but the 914 I think is much more fun on twisty back roads - plus in the UK it gets more comments and looks as no one knows what it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
| Dave_Darling |
Sep 10 2014, 10:56 AM
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914 Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,335 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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Still weighing the pros and cons between an SC and a G50 Carrera. For those of you who own either, advice is appreciated. The 3.2 motor is more powerful, but not really any faster. They made the gears taller when they put the larger motor in--it gets better fuel economy, but the acceleration is about the same as the SC. The 3.2's Motronic injection is a more modern system than the CIS on the 3.0 motor. It's easier to find people who know it and can work on it. Not that much of a factor if you're doing the work yourself, but it could become more important down the road. I don't really remember driving a G50, though I know I have. I guess that means it is as good as advertised? The 915 box can be a cranky beast, kind of like our 901 can. --DD |
| BK911 |
Sep 10 2014, 11:58 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 672 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Rocky Top, TN Member No.: 1,674 Region Association: None |
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| BK911 |
Sep 10 2014, 12:29 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 672 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Rocky Top, TN Member No.: 1,674 Region Association: None |
Bought "needing nothing" and was a little disappointed when she showed up. Shudda asked for pics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
| tumamilhem |
Sep 10 2014, 01:33 PM
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LUFTBRIGADE ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 29-October 12 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 15,092 Region Association: South East States |
Eric's comments are spot on re handling. Back in 1996 I found my 72S after 2 years of looking. 4 weeks after purchase & while gingerly driving to work on a frosty and very cold winter morning I managed to do a double 360 on a motorway slip lane on black ice Fortunately I was only doing about 20mph and there was nothing around me. 200 yds up the road was a 38 Ton arctic on the hard shoulder and a destroyed Volvo. Clearly he wasn't quite so lucky with the traffic I learnt an important lesson that day, don't instinctively lift completely off, I'm no Vic Elford and 911's (least the early ones) bite if not treated with respect The breathed on 2.4 MFI 911 is a pocket rocket and a hoot to drive but the 914 I think is much more fun on twisty back roads - plus in the UK it gets more comments and looks as no one knows what it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) |
| tumamilhem |
Sep 10 2014, 01:37 PM
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LUFTBRIGADE ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,228 Joined: 29-October 12 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 15,092 Region Association: South East States |
Still weighing the pros and cons between an SC and a G50 Carrera. For those of you who own either, advice is appreciated. The 3.2 motor is more powerful, but not really any faster. They made the gears taller when they put the larger motor in--it gets better fuel economy, but the acceleration is about the same as the SC. The 3.2's Motronic injection is a more modern system than the CIS on the 3.0 motor. It's easier to find people who know it and can work on it. Not that much of a factor if you're doing the work yourself, but it could become more important down the road. I don't really remember driving a G50, though I know I have. I guess that means it is as good as advertised? The 915 box can be a cranky beast, kind of like our 901 can. --DD Someone here recommended a while ago I read "The Used 911 Story" (which I bought and read). I guess the big determining factors between them are few but noteworthy. The SC's 915 tranny seems to be more of a "driver's" tranny, but fussy like the 901, whereas the later Carrera's G50 is heavier (though makes up in larger 3.2) but much smoother and more reliable. Also the SCs are considered "bulletproof" except for something in the engine that is notorious for breaking (I forget offhand, I'd have to refer to the book). The Carrera has a much better AC and vents in it than the SC. And I live in NE FL so that is important. |
| dcheek |
Sep 10 2014, 01:38 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
This is my 1989 911 Carrera. Last of the "Accordion Bumper" coupes. They only made 1100+ coupes that year. That was a transitional year where the 964 C4 911 was introduced and the Carreras where phased out. I always wanted a 911 and this one happened to come up for sale in our local PCA Region. I bought it 12 years ago with 1794 miles and I'm the 3rd owner! Yes I paid top dollar, but it was essentially a new car. I was lured by the low mileage and the color combination (Grand Prix White with Burgundy interior) not for the fact it was the last run of the Carreras. It's a wonderful car to drive with tons of torque and rock solid, with one of the best shifters I've ever experienced, namely the G50. I love this car. It's a completely different driving experience in that you sit higher and is much more powerful than my 914. I can't pick one over the other though. I like them both for their own virtues. But, there is something to be said for having 6 air cooled cylinders. I guess that's why the 914-6's are so cherished. That, and the limited production numbers are driving the 6 prices through the roof! All I know is that 60-80K can get you some serious 911. I'm just saying..... ![]() That's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm pretty much set on an 88-89 Carrera, pref coupe but will consider a targa (no convertible). Still weighing the pros and cons between an SC and a G50 Carrera. For those of you who own either, advice is appreciated. I love the 914. I've had 3 and will always have 1. I was considering getting (in addition to my LE) a /6 conversion or an SC or late 80's Carrera. I've pretty much decided to go the 911 route but still deciding which one to get. If I had to do it all over again, especially knowing what I know now, I would still go for the '89 over an '87 or '88, simply because it's last of the 911 serial number cars (VIN number starts with a 911) Also, it's the final version, and most improved of the Carrera 3.2 Model run, and it's the only non-turbo 3.2 Carrera that came standard with 16" diameter 8" width wheels in the back. The 87's and 88's and prior years had 7's in the rear. I know the 16 x 8's are very expensive both new and used for this reason. As far as the trans, the 915 is okay. It's requires a little more finesse whereas the G50 is more Hurst-like; very positive and tight. You can really bang through the gears with no problem. Just keep in mind the 89's are 25 years old now. SC's are even older, so finding one that hasn't been wooped will be harder. They're still too "new" to fully restore and not be upside down, so you're better off paying top dollar for a low mileage, well maintained car if you plan on keeping it for any length of time. Holt Motorsports has many 911's of this era. Check out his website. www.holtmotorsports.com Good luck! Dave |
| naro914 |
Sep 10 2014, 02:27 PM
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Losing my mind... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
We've owned 3 911's
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| Jeffs9146 |
Sep 10 2014, 02:38 PM
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Ski Bum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
I loved daily driving my 67 911s and wish I had held on to it long enough to realize the extreme jump in values over the past 20 years!!
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| BK911 |
Sep 10 2014, 05:24 PM
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