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> New rear PMB alloy calipers. Now no break pressure
Downerman
post Sep 17 2014, 04:57 PM
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OK, OBVIOUSLY no negative to the calipers. Here's the deal..... removed the 911 rear calipers (well for that matter the entire swing arms) but I just let the brake fluid lines hang and drain into jars. Finally got my swing arms mods done and now putting on the new calipers. Filled the brake resevoir up and had all 4 wheels off the car. Used my handy dandy brake sucker pump and had fluid running to all four bleeders on the rear (2 each for a caliper) and then did the fronts. Had to refill a couple of times because I was pulling some darker fluid until it was clear. Went into the cab and hit the breaks. Nothing.... I mean NADA. Pumped like a 100 times to no avail.

RE-DID the entire process again. NADA and I mean nothing. So, I'm wondering if my master has gone south in this time line?? and why?? Seems the only logical answer at this point. Anyone have any ideas?

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post Sep 17 2014, 07:36 PM
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If the M/C is old, sometimes rust and dirt settle to the bottom of the bore and when you bleed the brakes the cup seals can be damaged. If you bleed the brakes by pushing on the pedal, the cups are pushed past their normal range of travel and can run over this junk and tear the seals. Pressure bleeding is best, but not as simple.

The low position of the master cylinder in the 914 makes it harder to rid the system of air. Remember to always bleed the caliper farthest away from the M/C first, then continue in order to the closest caliper. Then do it again.
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post Sep 17 2014, 07:46 PM
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Thanks everyone for the info. Yeah I started with Passenger rear, drivers rear, passenger front and drivers front. Bottom line though is I have brake fluid for days coming out clear and bubble free from every bleeder. Just NADA at the peddle. I have been scrambling to try and find a method of bleeding the master cylinder but nothing makes sense. If I don't have ANY pressure in the peddle will simply losening the nuts on the MC release the air? How could it if there's no pressure?

I'm losing my mind on this simple issue.

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If the M/C is old, sometimes rust and dirt settle to the bottom of the bore and when you bleed the brakes the cup seals can be damaged. If you bleed the brakes by pushing on the pedal, the cups are pushed past their normal range of travel and can run over this junk and tear the seals. Pressure bleeding is best, but not as simple.

The low position of the master cylinder in the 914 makes it harder to rid the system of air. Remember to always bleed the caliper farthest away from the M/C first, then continue in order to the closest caliper. Then do it again.

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Downerman   New rear PMB alloy calipers. Now no break pressure   Sep 17 2014, 04:57 PM
wndsrfr   OK, OBVIOUSLY no negative to the calipers. Here...   Sep 17 2014, 05:06 PM
Mblizzard   If you go to the old open the bleeder and pump the...   Sep 17 2014, 05:08 PM
Downerman   Yes, maybe 3-4 weeks. Dave If you go to the o...   Sep 17 2014, 05:23 PM
Downerman   Found this.... same issue as mine using a "Su...   Sep 17 2014, 05:31 PM
76-914   Yep, bench bled time.   Sep 17 2014, 05:31 PM
Downerman   Ok, bench bleed time. I've read some posts th...   Sep 17 2014, 05:35 PM
rgalla9146   Ok, bench bleed time. I've read some posts t...   Sep 17 2014, 05:52 PM
Jeffs9146   Just crack the lines at the MC. Make sure there is...   Sep 17 2014, 05:43 PM
Elliot Cannon   If the system was dry for 3 to 4 weeks, the seals ...   Sep 17 2014, 06:19 PM
Tbrown4x4   If the M/C is old, sometimes rust and dirt settle ...   Sep 17 2014, 07:36 PM
Downerman   Thanks everyone for the info. Yeah I started with...   Sep 17 2014, 07:46 PM
Jeffs9146   By loosening the outlines on the MC and letting it...   Sep 17 2014, 07:59 PM
Downerman   Ok Jeff, I will try this in the morning. Thanks a...   Sep 17 2014, 08:31 PM
Downerman   For those who care to know..... I bled the M/C to ...   Sep 22 2014, 10:38 AM
Dave_Darling   Wait, what??? The calipers were not in the regula...   Sep 22 2014, 04:22 PM
Downerman   I have a great pedal right now. Eric didn't t...   Sep 22 2014, 06:21 PM
rgalla9146   ......... you would have had your solution much so...   Sep 22 2014, 06:43 PM
Downerman   You are correct sir!!! As I said ab...   Sep 22 2014, 06:55 PM
ClayPerrine   I had the same issue on my old Jeep truck. I had t...   Sep 23 2014, 06:07 AM
9146986   Pressure bleeding is the only way to go. Here...   Sep 23 2014, 07:41 AM
kkid   Pressure bleeding is the only way to go. Here...   Sep 23 2014, 10:44 AM
Downerman   Nice..... so what do you think the difference is ...   Sep 23 2014, 11:12 AM
Tbrown4x4   So....Any luck? I'm also a fan of pressure bl...   Sep 28 2014, 10:54 AM


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