Outer door latch plastic ring broke |
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Outer door latch plastic ring broke |
era vulgaris |
Sep 20 2014, 02:37 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
So suddenly yesterday I could no longer open my passenger door from the outside. I took the outside handle off and found that the plastic ring broke, that pushes on the lever to activate the latch.
First of all, it seems idiotic to make a part like this out of plastic! But that aside, can I replace just the plastic part, or do I need to buy an entire outside handle? Attached thumbnail(s) |
dangrouche |
Sep 20 2014, 03:13 PM
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dangrouche Group: Members Posts: 550 Joined: 1-May 04 From: San Francisco Bay Area Member No.: 2,012 Region Association: None |
that is the slider piece is obtainable and costs about $10-15 from any of the specialty 914 vendors. Google it,914 door latch cam, or get it as a WTB as well; Pelican sells it for $10
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearc...mber=PEL-DR-CM1 |
era vulgaris |
Sep 20 2014, 04:47 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
Awesome, thanks man! I didn't know what that piece was called.
Just ordered it from Pelican! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
messix |
Sep 20 2014, 04:52 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
914 rubber has them too! http://shop.914rubber.com/door-cam-actuator-914DCA.htm
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bdstone914 |
Sep 20 2014, 06:37 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,512 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
It is made of plastic so it will break before the expensive metal handle breaks.
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wobbletop |
Sep 20 2014, 07:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 382 Joined: 8-December 06 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,335 Region Association: Canada |
I just replaced mine. It lasted for two door openings then broke again. Something else must be wrong with mine.
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Rob-O |
Sep 20 2014, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I just replaced mine. It lasted for two door openings then broke again. Something else must be wrong with mine. Probably the inner door latch needs to be removed, cleaned and re-lubricated. When the inner door latch gets gummed up (that grease is 40 or so years old) the latch doesn't want to move/release. That plastic piece pushes a portion of the inner latch to release the door. So if that inner latch is gummed up, you opening the door handle just squashes the plastic part and can snap it. |
rmdinmd |
Sep 21 2014, 05:23 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 30-October 13 From: Greeneville,Tn Member No.: 16,585 Region Association: South East States |
when I cleaned my inner latch I also ended up needing to soak in in pb blaster to lube it right. turns out I cleaned it too well but after soaking it in pb blaster it works like new.
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era vulgaris |
Sep 27 2014, 02:45 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
Just tried installing the new door latch cam from Pelican, but the plastic is much thinner and more flexible than the original. The arms of the cam just bend and the door won't open.
And I did remove and relubricate the latch mechanism (basically a wd-40 bath). It helped as far as the cam being able to push the latch all the way when the door is open (although I could still see some bending of the cam arms happening). But when the door is closed the cam isn't strong enough to move the latch to open the door. Has anyone tried the door latch cam from 914rubber? If it's the same as the Pelican one, I'll just place a WTB in the classifieds for an original. |
messix |
Sep 27 2014, 02:52 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
you might have the realign the door lock catch and striker. if they are misaligned it could cause a high effort to work the release.
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era vulgaris |
Sep 27 2014, 03:27 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
I tried that.
The issue is that the repro cam from Pelican isn't as strong. I can easily bend and almost fold the arms of the repro cam with my fingers. The plastic of the original cam is much thicker, and it's not possible to bend the arms of the cam at all. |
steuspeed |
Sep 27 2014, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,005 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have been through the same thing. The last time I bought a used factory white plastic cam off ebay for $7.00. Had to bend the metal arms just a bit to pop it in. Working fine so far.
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dangrouche |
Sep 27 2014, 08:57 PM
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dangrouche Group: Members Posts: 550 Joined: 1-May 04 From: San Francisco Bay Area Member No.: 2,012 Region Association: None |
sounds like you need to remove the latch assembly and give it a good cleaning in some sort of solvent (brake cleaner or diesel fuel bath), then lubed with with lithium at contact points, to make all the parts move freely. I know that my key used to be unable to lock the door, but after the removal, cleaning, and lube, the key can actually lock the door
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bdstone914 |
Sep 27 2014, 09:33 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,512 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
sounds like you need to remove the latch assembly and give it a good cleaning in some sort of solvent (brake cleaner or diesel fuel bath), then lubed with with lithium at contact points, to make all the parts move freely. I know that my key used to be unable to lock the door, but after the removal, cleaning, and lube, the key can actually lock the door (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Remove and clean the latch part that locks onto the striker plate. You will be surprised at the light amount of pressure it takes to operate a cleaned and lubed latch. |
era vulgaris |
Sep 28 2014, 02:14 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
I've already removed, cleaned, and re-lubed the latch as I mentioned above. I don't think the issue the latch. It moves easily, and the door opens without issue from the inside.
The issue is the repro cam. It isn't strong enough to push the latch. Here's what happens when you try and open the door: Attached thumbnail(s) |
era vulgaris |
Sep 28 2014, 02:26 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
It seems discussing the problem has helped, as they say. Looking at that pic of the inside of my door, I noticed the bottom arm of the cam didn't seem to be getting pushed by the door handle.
Looks like I'm going to need a new door handle. No wonder the original latch cam broke. The top half of it was exerting all the force on the latch. What's a replacement door handle run? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
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