 Mahle magnesium, for sale on evil bay |
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| Joe Ricard |
 Jan 27 2005, 02:35 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU  Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92  |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...&category=43955
Anybody quickly verify these are the real deal. I gotta have em |
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| anderssj |
Jan 27 2005, 02:40 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,654 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Joe,
The look like Pedrinis, probably from 71-72, some modified versions in early 73; I think they were probably aluminum not magnesium . . . More to follow if I can find the article. Hope this helps, Steve A- |
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| double-a |
Jan 27 2005, 02:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: vancouver, wa, usa Member No.: 1,162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
saw this earlier today. those are pedrinis, not mahles. the pedrinis and mahles were cast aluminum i believe, not mag.
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| davep |
Jan 27 2005, 02:44 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,137 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada  |
Definitely Pedrini, and aluminum to boot. If anything, the Mahle rim was a copy since it came later.
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| lapuwali |
Jan 27 2005, 02:47 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Those are aluminum Pedrinis. They are NOT the "lightest wheel made for the 914", as the auction states. The Four-bolt Fuchs are lighter, and the five-bolt Mahles are lighter still. The four-bolt Mahles were about the same as the Pedrinis on weight. Good wheel, just misrepresented in the auction. Otto has 4 for sale in 914 classifieds here for $360 for the set. I can throw in a fifth if you want a complete set including a spare. The ones on Ebay are in need of a serious cleanup.
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 27 2005, 02:49 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Those "are" Pedrinni's. I do believe they are magnesium as well. They are the lightest wheels available from what I understand. There was a PCA member at Las Vegas a couple years back that used them because of this. (I Class). Those are early (70-72) wheels without the centering cutout.
They were painted silver from the factory. They are stock with the VW stampings and the 914 model numbers. He states that they're "copies" of the Mahles... not sure about that. They look very similar but Pedrinni's have the ribs that cross and intersect at the center cap. Blast them clean (walnut or plastic media), paint them #924 silver and you've got some sweet wheels for your teener. (not associated with the seller) |
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| 914werke |
Jan 27 2005, 02:49 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,034 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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So has anyone sent the sellor and message indicating his either mistaken or a shyster?
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 27 2005, 02:50 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'll defer to James as my lightweight comment was only based on here-say.
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 27 2005, 02:54 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Why... because of the lightweight comment? Maybe James can "enlighten" us before the club goes off and flames away. I did here from a pretty kick-ass driver that they were the lightest. But... just because he had a clean car and drove fast doesn't mean he was right. I heard they were magnesium as well. |
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| 914werke |
Jan 27 2005, 02:56 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,034 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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No Eric because of the MAGNISUM comment!
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| Mueller |
Jan 27 2005, 03:02 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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yep....those in the picture are regular cast aluminum rims...they weigh a few pounds more than the forged Fuchs...as for the Fuchs, I weighed one 15x5.5 4-lugger last night on a few different scales, got just a tad under 13.5 pounds, no weights and no valve stem.
only the 5-lug Mahle is magnesium (except for some rare 917 and RS America C2 rims : ) ) I had a set of the 4-lug Mahles...nothing special about them besides looking different than the normal everyday Fuchs (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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| Joe Ricard |
Jan 27 2005, 03:04 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
These are exactly what I have. cept I got 5 of them. in better shape.
Just thought maybe they were real and I didn't know no better. Thanks ya'll Don't need no more of these Pedrini's can't seem to get rid of the ones I got. |
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| lapuwali |
Jan 27 2005, 03:08 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
There was something of a weight controversy awhile back, and no one agreed on exact numbers, so I'm not going to quote any. However, the relative weights for OEM available wheels on the 914 are (light to heavy):
five-bolt Mahle (mag, 914/6 only) four-bolt Fuchs (aka 2.0 Fuchs) Pedrinis four-bolt Mahles early steel late steel (SuperBeetle style, big cross) I've weighed a bare Pedrini and a bare 2.0 Fuchs wheel, and the Fuchs is absolutely lighter. Both are aluminum. I also believe the four-bolt Mahle is about the same weight as the Pedrini. As previously stated, the four-bolt Mahle came out later. All of the '74 LEs had them stock. I'm not all that certain on the relative weights of the two steel wheels, but a "carry it across the garage" test says the early steels weigh less than the later ones. |
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| skline |
Jan 27 2005, 03:10 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
I like the 4 lug Mahles, I prefer them over any of the stock wheels on a 914. I like the Fuchs too but have seen a lot of them with cracks. I never cared for the pedrinis at all. Dont know why, I just didnt. The pedrinis were out first at the same time the Mahle gas burners were out. The Mahle gas burners are the lightest wheel ever installed by the factory on a 914. I blew it, I had a chance to pick up a full set of 5 back in the 80's for $300.00. Do you know what they go for now? A guy at Pomona was selling a single for $1100. bucks. It was brand new in the box.
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 27 2005, 03:31 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I got them mixed up with the 911/914-6 wheels from the looks of James post.
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| lapuwali |
Jan 27 2005, 03:49 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
I like both the Pedrinis and the four-bolt Mahles, but have four-bolt Fuchs on my car, mostly because it's actually easier to find a complete set in nice shape. The five-bolt Mahles are pretty rare. I've seen a set or two on Ebay, but you don't see them often. The only set I've seen on an actual car was on an early 911. I personally think these are prettier than the five-bolt "windmill" Fuchs. $1100 for just one seems excessive, but I've heard haven't heard a selling price in years. |
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| Mueller |
Jan 27 2005, 03:57 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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I stand by my <13.5 pounds for a Fuchs wheel, I'd bet money that the other poster (Mike) was incorrect (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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| Reiche |
Jan 27 2005, 06:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 2,934 |
Did you include the hubcap? Not a fair comparison without it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Trekkor |
Jan 27 2005, 08:00 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Here's what mine look like. You like?
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| GWN7 |
Jan 27 2005, 08:29 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
PET lists 10 different wheels that came on the 914. Five on the 6's and 5 on the 4's.
Three different part numbers for Fuchs, two of which are called Aluminimun Forged (6's) and a third which is Aluminimun Alloy (4). It also shows the Mahle as being available. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) And lists the Mahle as being Aluminimun Alloy |
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