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do the repro front hood seals suck? |
siverson |
Oct 7 2014, 11:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
yuck...
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siverson |
Oct 7 2014, 11:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,448 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California |
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eitnurg |
Oct 8 2014, 01:23 AM
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Country Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Nairobi Member No.: 62 Region Association: None |
yuck... Yes, basically. In x-section the seal is like a "2". When it's cut for the corners, the seal squashes flat before it parts. This distortion is maintained when the ends are glued together. On the genuine item the correct profile is maintained thoughout the manufacturing process, so it fits properly. |
jmmotorsports |
Oct 8 2014, 02:43 AM
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balljoint |
Oct 8 2014, 05:10 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,000 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None |
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Johny Blackstain |
Oct 8 2014, 05:27 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I uninstalled mine because it was so poorly glued in it was easy. Now after I wash the car I lift the unglued seal up & dry underneath, then plop the worthless POS back in place & let it just lay there. Thanks George! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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mepstein |
Oct 8 2014, 06:07 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,260 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) My plans are to leave the seal unglued so I can let water dry out of the channel |
BeatNavy |
Oct 8 2014, 06:12 AM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat Group: Members Posts: 2,924 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have one I purchased from 914Rubber several months ago. Just never got around to installing it yet. Anyone have luck with that one?
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bandjoey |
Oct 8 2014, 08:29 AM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,925 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The 914 rubber seal fits much better than others (have tried 3) but still not a great fit. A smidgen too short at the corners makes it a stretch fit so the corners pucker some. I un-glued mine and just lay it in the track. It also sticks to the lid when opening so I rub on a thin coat of vasoline to stop that problem.
It does keep the trunk dry. |
DRPHIL914 |
Oct 8 2014, 12:01 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,766 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
i have never thought this was a good way to seal the trunk. it seems like it just traps the water in the channel. I think it should be more like we use on the rear trunk, that would seal the trunk and keep the channel open for water to easily run out. I was thinking of just ordering a piece from mark (914 rubber) that has that metal clip in it like the rear one... long enough to go all the way around.
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bandjoey |
Oct 8 2014, 04:15 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,925 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I tried a piece of his rear trunk seal and it's too tall. Very little clearance in there. By not gluing I take the seal out after a rain to dry the channel. It does seal good.
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Mikey914 |
Oct 8 2014, 11:25 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,659 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I tried a piece of his rear trunk seal and it's too tall. Very little clearance in there. By not gluing I take the seal out after a rain to dry the channel. It does seal good. I do have the tall profile and the OEM, the tall will definitely close the gap, the OEM tends to crush down over time. |
DRPHIL914 |
Oct 9 2014, 06:58 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,766 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
I tried a piece of his rear trunk seal and it's too tall. Very little clearance in there. By not gluing I take the seal out after a rain to dry the channel. It does seal good. I do have the tall profile and the OEM, the tall will definitely close the gap, the OEM tends to crush down over time. I'd like to try this . Mark , if you can cut it to the correct length for the front to go all the way around, i'd like to get that from you . it would be just like the one i got from you that is in there rear trunk. PM me if you have time. if it works good on the rear, why not the front? that way the channels can drain the rain, not trap it and still keep the trunk dry. I am just not sure which height is needed, the OEM or yours. Seems like there is not much of a difference and the taller would still work better. Phil |
bandjoey |
Oct 9 2014, 10:39 AM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,925 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I tried a piece of his rear trunk seal and it's too tall. Very little clearance in there. By not gluing I take the seal out after a rain to dry the channel. It does seal good. I do have the tall profile and the OEM, the tall will definitely close the gap, the OEM tends to crush down over time. Sorry. I ment to say I tried the rear clip on seal in the front trunk. (Perfect rear fit!). It prevented the front trunk lid from closing. Just my experience. |
johnhora |
Oct 9 2014, 10:44 AM
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Mikey914 |
Oct 9 2014, 01:32 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,659 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The problem is that most of these are being purchased from a wholesale source that makes them at a price point that you can retail at $45. I can't make them for that. I had looked into making these and to make a quality seal it's about $68 per unit in large quantity.
I have made the tooling to cut and bond these, but when I went to neoprene it didn't compress as well as it should and held the trunk up. I can make a killer seal that isn't like OEM, but would dramatically improve the sealing ability. The problem is I don't think the price point will support making it. Yes mine currently come from the same source. It's why I can sell the set at $59 |
dknechtly |
Oct 9 2014, 02:56 PM
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Yellow 914 Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 11-April 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 560 Region Association: None |
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bandjoey |
Oct 9 2014, 06:05 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,925 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If it will lay in the track without stretching it and lay flat and the corners are square and don't pucker up I 'll pay $100 and I think most will pay more for quality.
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altitude411 |
Oct 9 2014, 06:44 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If it will lay in the track without stretching it and lay flat and the corners are square and don't pucker up I 'll pay $100 and I think most will pay more for quality. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
Mikey914 |
Oct 9 2014, 07:09 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,659 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
If it will lay in the track without stretching it and lay flat and the corners are square and don't pucker up I 'll pay $100 and I think most will pay more for quality. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I'll revisit these. I want to keep prices reasonable, but yes I agree the current product needs improvement. |
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