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> oil temp combo gauge bench testing, what am I doing wrong (question answered) next: calibrate the gauge
malcolm2
post Oct 14 2014, 09:00 PM
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I have had this gauge for a while. I also found the complete taco plate, sender etc... to set it up. I decided to test it. I tested the sender a while back in hot water and remember getting various readings as the temp increased.

I pulled out my 12v powered drill battery, put 12v + on the + terminal of the gauge and the - on the - of the gauge. ( you can't see the - wire in the picture, but it is there)

The gauge moved to where it is in the picture without the sender even being connected. It did not move once the sender was connected.

Inside the temp gauge are the following #s. Far left 30, at the start of the red line 156.7 and the end of the red line 170 *C

The top of the paper is what is stamped on each face of the hex and the gauge part # has been edited to what you see in the picture.

1. why is the gauge moving at room temp with or with out the sender?
2. do I have this thing hooked up right? any alternate testing suggestions?
3. do I have a matched sender & gauge?

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post Oct 21 2014, 07:51 PM
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Sorry, was unaware that the needle was not traveling to the cold mark, thought we resolved this earlier by grounding the sensor's casing. I think your sensor maybe out of tolerance. Let's try bench testing once again, the same way but not with the boiling water this time.

Adjust your potentiometer to 1000 ohms, instead of 0. You should now have a total resistance of 2800 ohms at room temperature (measuring from the sensors' case to the G terminal on the back of the gauge). Power it up and see if the needle moved any closer to the cold position.
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post Oct 21 2014, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Oct 21 2014, 08:51 PM) *

Sorry, was unaware that the needle was not traveling to the cold mark, thought we resolved this earlier by grounding the sensor's casing. I think your sensor maybe out of tolerance. Let's try bench testing once again, the same way but not with the boiling water this time.

Adjust your potentiometer to 1000 ohms, instead of 0. You should now have a total resistance of 2800 ohms at room temperature (measuring from the sensors' case to the G terminal on the back of the gauge). Power it up and see if the needle moved any closer to the cold position.


it is actually about 3 mm closer to the left WITHOUT the pot in the circuit. I tried it in line then took the pot out, re-connected and it dropped (moved left) a smidge when re-connected.

update: measuring from the sensors case to the G term with the pot in line and the meter on 2K I get .242.

2nd update: I made a circuit from the terminal of the sensor thru the pot (at 1000 ohms) and checked it at room temp. meter on 20K setting, I read 3.2.... remove the pot and I read 2.2. Seems logical.
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malcolm2   oil temp combo gauge bench testing   Oct 14 2014, 09:00 PM
bdstone914   I have had this gauge for a while. I also found ...   Oct 14 2014, 09:10 PM
malcolm2   I have tried this set up on the car's battery ...   Oct 14 2014, 09:34 PM
malcolm2   morning :bump: Anyone know what is happening her...   Oct 15 2014, 05:32 AM
bdstone914   Sounds like the gauge may be faulty. Did you try g...   Oct 15 2014, 06:47 AM
malcolm2   Sounds like the gauge may be faulty. Did you try ...   Oct 15 2014, 06:53 AM
stugray   Sounds like the gauge may be faulty. Did you try...   Oct 15 2014, 08:11 AM
bdstone914   [quote name='malcolm2' post='2097994' date='Oct 1...   Oct 15 2014, 08:41 AM
malcolm2   Ground the terminal from the gauge directly. Tha...   Oct 15 2014, 09:40 AM
bdstone914   With either battery just jump from the G to - on t...   Oct 15 2014, 09:57 AM
malcolm2   [b][i]The gauge is responding to a signal when th...   Oct 15 2014, 11:47 AM
StratPlayer   So if the gauge pegs that means the gauge is good ...   Oct 15 2014, 11:26 AM
timothy_nd28   For this gauge to act correctly, all wires need to...   Oct 15 2014, 11:37 AM
timothy_nd28   Closer look of the guts:   Oct 15 2014, 11:54 AM
malcolm2   Closer look of the guts: I just took it out, I...   Oct 15 2014, 12:21 PM
Dave_Darling   Just to make sure: You know that the "G...   Oct 15 2014, 01:30 PM
malcolm2   Just to make sure: You know that the "G...   Oct 15 2014, 05:18 PM
malcolm2   :beer2: I need to thank everyone for their help ...   Oct 15 2014, 06:26 PM
timothy_nd28   I'm not sure where the needle should point at ...   Oct 15 2014, 06:43 PM
malcolm2   I'm not sure where the needle should point at...   Oct 20 2014, 09:15 PM
Mblizzard   Anyone figure out Clark is an engineer? I know so...   Oct 15 2014, 07:44 PM
malcolm2   Anyone figure out Clark is an engineer? I know s...   Oct 16 2014, 06:29 AM
timothy_nd28   You should test the potentiometer first. Measure ...   Oct 20 2014, 10:04 PM
malcolm2   You should test the potentiometer first. Measure...   Oct 21 2014, 07:07 AM
timothy_nd28   I just did a quick Google search and it looks like...   Oct 20 2014, 10:19 PM
timothy_nd28   The boiling water is key for this setup. The pote...   Oct 21 2014, 12:05 PM
malcolm2   If the sensor is at room temp, the needle is alr...   Oct 21 2014, 12:46 PM
ClayPerrine   Has anyone noticed that there is no ground return ...   Oct 21 2014, 12:56 PM
malcolm2   Has anyone noticed that there is no ground return...   Oct 21 2014, 01:10 PM
malcolm2   Tim, you need an award. :headbanger: :headbange...   Oct 21 2014, 06:10 PM
timothy_nd28   A couple of things: You can't measure resista...   Oct 21 2014, 06:36 PM
malcolm2   A couple of things: You can't measure resist...   Oct 21 2014, 07:07 PM
stugray   This is about all you ever need on this topic: ht...   Oct 21 2014, 07:08 PM
malcolm2   This is about all you ever need on this topic: h...   Oct 21 2014, 07:18 PM
timothy_nd28   what is the resistance of the sensor when at room ...   Oct 21 2014, 07:15 PM
malcolm2   what is the resistance of the sensor when at room...   Oct 21 2014, 07:26 PM
stugray   what is the resistance of the sensor when at room...   Oct 22 2014, 12:11 AM
malcolm2   So I am not quite grasping what inserting a seri...   Oct 22 2014, 11:54 AM
malcolm2   This post is on hold for a while. I am getting...   Nov 24 2014, 07:18 PM
timothy_nd28   Sorry, was unaware that the needle was not traveli...   Oct 21 2014, 07:51 PM
malcolm2   Sorry, was unaware that the needle was not travel...   Oct 21 2014, 08:10 PM


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