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> I need new shocks, Koni or Bilsteins?
kdfoust
post Jun 2 2003, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jun 2 2003, 08:55 AM)
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Why not Bilstein heavy-duty (the normal Bilstein not the sport)? Less pain, more filling  


Is there much difference, performance-wise? PMC carries both for the same price.

-Rusty

I dunno. I just know that my car has those all the way around now.

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post Jun 2 2003, 05:49 PM
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After reading the latest article in Excellence about the remote reservoir shocks by Smart Racing/Fox, I'd hold out for those (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif)


A complete set would run 2x (min) of the Koni's, but no comparison if they are as good as any of their other products....
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post Jun 2 2003, 07:59 PM
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To me it was a no brainer.
I picked up a parts car for cheap and found a perfect set of billy's on it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So Bilsteins on all 4 corners for me, they are stiff but not harsh. Sure are better than the worn out factory original boge's that were on our teen.

I did ride in a 914 with KYB's and found out why they call em Kill-Yer Backs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Jun 2 2003, 08:16 PM
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I have KYBs on the back of my /6, and God only know's what it's in the front.
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post Jun 2 2003, 09:22 PM
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I have had the Koni Yellow gas Sport Shocks on my 914 for a number of years now. They are just great. If you decide to AutoX you can adjust the tire pressures and the shocks, real nice feature. When you use the standard size tires and set them on full soft the ride is still firm but not buck board like at all. However on 50 series tires they can be a bit choppy, but still not bad. I woundn't even consider any other shock other than the ones in Mikes post and the remote cannister shocks are a different animal all together. Keep your old shocks if they are any good at all, if and when you sell your car take the Koni's off and sell them seperately, they have that good of a life span. Alternatley you can send them back to Koni for a factory referbishing. Great value and an excellent product[/SIZE]. [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT]
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post Jun 2 2003, 09:52 PM
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what is the difference between bilstein sports and HD? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) i have the sports on the rear. i bought them, because in the tweeks catalog, it said sports were for "shorter aftermarket springs". il like them. i need a set of fronts...i have basically no damping at all...its like a springboard! so im savinf for some shocks/tbars/swaybar......struts will come first. i do no AX-ing, but some SPIRITED (no, no alcohol involved (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) ) driving. so are bilsteins good for the front? HD or Sport?
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post Jun 3 2003, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Jun 2 2003, 08:03 AM)
How old are you ??

I swear..age makes the decision. Young guy's like Chris Reale can put up with Bilsteins on the street. I'm getting old... I want both worlds.. A nice cushy car while driving around town and bump jumping bouncing race car when I want it. Koni's.

B

Most old guys I know wouldn't be able to handle the ride of the Koni Sports. Reds maybe, but yellows are getting pretty stiff for the street.

Haven't descided yet for myself. First priority is to replace the 15x11/9s (scary balloon tires) with some 17x9/7.5s from a boxster/911. Then new dampers.

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post Jun 3 2003, 02:34 PM
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You can buy the Bilstein HD inserts or shocks for the 914 stock Boge struts or rear
for $135.85 each plus shipping @ http://www.allshocks.com/bilstein/html/home.asp

I was lucky to win off eBay a new set of HD inserts for $139.00 plus shipping. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Jun 3 2003, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jun 2 2003, 06:16 PM)
I have KYBs on the back of my /6, and God only know's what it's in the front.

I checked with God. She says she doesn't know you.

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post Jun 3 2003, 03:48 PM
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Monroe roadhandlers would be my guess to go with the KYB on the rear.


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post Jun 4 2003, 10:56 PM
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Rusty, just curious - which way did you decide to go with this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Jun 5 2003, 12:07 AM
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I have the Bilsteins. Sports, I guess (at the time, there was only one that actually fit).

If I had a 'do-over', I'd pick Konis. Externally Adjustable Konis.

When they were new, driving over the stripes in the road you could feel how recently they had been re-painted.

Even now, my full body weight won't move the fender down.

$.02,
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post Jun 5 2003, 09:33 AM
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I will probably go with the Koni yellows from Paragon - unless Brad gets a better deal in his bulk purchase.

I want to redo my entire suspension at once. All the front, then all the rear. Clean, polish, powdercoat, new shocks, new bushings (already have turbo tie rod arms).

It's going to be quite the job, and I'm not looking forward to it.

-Rusty
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post Jun 5 2003, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jun 5 2003, 07:33 AM)
I will probably go with the Koni yellows from Paragon - unless Brad gets a better deal in his bulk purchase.

I want to redo my entire suspension at once. All the front, then all the rear. Clean, polish, powdercoat, new shocks, new bushings (already have turbo tie rod arms).

It's going to be quite the job, and I'm not looking forward to it.

-Rusty

Doing the front suspension isn't so bad, and this is coming from ME, who'd rather do almost any thing than lay under the car every day. I'm into the project 3 weeks working a couple evenings a week and a little while on Saturday or Sunday. It'll be back on the road by Sunday

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post Jun 5 2003, 10:28 AM
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It's not just "doing the suspension"... it's all the cleanup, sand blasting, powdercoating, etc, etc.. that makes a weekend project into a 2 week ordeal.

I've decided on the powdercoating system I want to buy, now I'm looking around for a cheap electric oven.

-Rusty
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post Jun 5 2003, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Jun 5 2003, 08:28 AM)
I've decided on the powdercoating system I want to buy, now I'm looking around for a cheap electric oven.

-Rusty

Rusty, your doing home powdercoating?

Details please!
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post Jun 5 2003, 10:40 AM
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Bilstien Sports are supposedly better suited for lowered cars.

The rod/piston assembly is shorter to help avoid bottoming out. The valving "supposed" to be the same as non-sports.
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post Jun 5 2003, 10:54 AM
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Rusty, your doing home powdercoating?

Details please!


Columbia Coatings

This will be my first attempt at my own powdercoating. Ginter has been doing it for years, and the encouragement he gave me pushed me to do my own setup someday.

Go to their Online store, and look for the Chicago Electric Deluxe kit.
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post Jun 5 2003, 12:37 PM
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So how do you determine if the existing Koni's or Bilsteins are worn out and need replacement? What is the average lifespan of these shocks?
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post Jun 5 2003, 01:27 PM
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Rusty,

I don't know how you can find ANYTHING on that web page...wow, someone needs to help them out...
If someone finds the link post it here.

thanks,
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