 Converting to a 914-6, I am not a mechanic... Am I crazy....? |
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| patssle |
 Oct 22 2014, 11:28 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE The five-lug setup is not a requirement I'm running 4 lugs and stock brakes with my 3.0L...so far no problems. Still stops great. I did plenty of research and it seems the stock brakes are fine - some are even using them on the track with their 6 motors. I like my Mahles and see no reason to "upgrade" to 5 lug for 99% street driving. |
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| gereed75 |
Oct 22 2014, 11:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,237 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States 
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Oct 22 2014, 01:26 PM)  I have a 2.2L under a workbench here that supposedly has S cams, belongs to a customer in NJ. He's looking to sell it. Needs induction, ignition and exhaust. Chris, I would be interested in info on that engine. Currently about to slide down the $lippery $lope of rebuilding my tired 2.4 T into 2.4 Mod S motor. Contact me here or at gereed75@yahoo.com |
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| Root_Werks |
Oct 22 2014, 03:41 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,298 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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That looks like a nice 914-4 and nice 914's are pretty hard to come by these days. I wouldn't convert it, just go find a 914 that's already converted to something you want.
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| bcheney |
Oct 22 2014, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
The big bumpers are cool...I left them on my 1975 -6 conversion!
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| carr914 |
Oct 22 2014, 06:07 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 117,986 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States  |
QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Oct 22 2014, 05:41 PM) That looks like a nice 914-4 and nice 914's are pretty hard to come by these days. I wouldn't convert it, just go find a 914 that's already converted to something you want. Holy Shite, Root is in the House, how the hell are you? |
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| McMark |
Oct 22 2014, 09:48 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Oct 22 2014, 08:12 AM) WOW!! $1000 for wiring a /6 into a /4 harness ... the hourly rate must be in the $500+ area. Apparently you've never worked with a 3.2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Come on Ron, obviously a six running carbs wouldn't take 10+ hours to wire. But even a carb setup is gonna take more than 2 hours to wire if you do a nice job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) |
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| Root_Werks |
Oct 23 2014, 08:33 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,298 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Oct 22 2014, 05:07 PM) QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Oct 22 2014, 05:41 PM) That looks like a nice 914-4 and nice 914's are pretty hard to come by these days. I wouldn't convert it, just go find a 914 that's already converted to something you want. Holy Shite, Root is in the House, how the hell are you? Good, thanks! Still 914-less, but someday I'll pick up another one. I've been re-purchasing cars I used to own and just keeping them including a few Porsches. Haven't been able to track down any of my old 914's yet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| SLITS |
Oct 23 2014, 08:59 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 22 2014, 08:48 PM) QUOTE(SLITS @ Oct 22 2014, 08:12 AM) WOW!! $1000 for wiring a /6 into a /4 harness ... the hourly rate must be in the $500+ area. Apparently you've never worked with a 3.2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Come on Ron, obviously a six running carbs wouldn't take 10+ hours to wire. But even a carb setup is gonna take more than 2 hours to wire if you do a nice job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) I have done one with carbs ... a 3.0 ... and you are correct, I've never done a 3.2L. All the rest were MFI or CIS. All I do is match function and add a couple of wires for oil temp / pressure. I use the 14 pin male /female connectors. I have done 5 conversions which does not make me an expert by any means. And it took me less than 2 hours of which the greatest amount of time was spent soldering the pins on the wires. Back to invisible ................ |
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| mepstein |
Oct 23 2014, 09:01 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,213 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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If you do it, plan to spend more money than you think because there is plenty of little stuff that ads up. Wiring, gauges, heat, shift rods, oil lines, gaskets, hardware, muffler, r&r and modify some new/old parts, ect, ect. Even if you don't replace brakes, trans, cv's and tires, you'll want to make sure they are all in great condition,
Just budget high and you won't be disappointed. It's a hobby car so enjoy it. |
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| Trekkor |
Oct 25 2014, 12:15 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I did mine for about $4000.
Did it all myself. It's all documented here. No one believed it could be done. Finding a motor for under $1500 might be tough today. |
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| Justinp71 |
Oct 25 2014, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(Trekkor @ Oct 25 2014, 11:15 AM) I did mine for about $4000. Did it all myself. It's all documented here. No one believed it could be done. Finding a motor for under $1500 might be tough today. Only motors I've seen for $1500 were 2.7's ready to fall apart... I've seen some good deals on 3.0's for $3-5k and they would be cheaper to wire. Also very robust with the aluminum case. |
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| Mark Henry |
Oct 25 2014, 07:03 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Trekkor @ Oct 25 2014, 02:15 PM) I did mine for about $4000. Did it all myself. It's all documented here. No one believed it could be done. Finding a motor for under $1500 might be tough today. Didn't you smoke one engine? Didn't you have a 2.7 core kicking around? Are you adding that to the total? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Oct 25 2014, 07:59 PM) Only motors I've seen for $1500 were 2.7's ready to fall apart... I've seen some good deals on 3.0's for $3-5k and they would be cheaper to wire. Also very robust with the aluminum case. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You can find a stock 3.0 good with good leak down numbers for around $4K. All /6 engines can have issues, the 3.0 like other sizes have head stud problems so a leakdown test is a must. |
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| thelogo |
Oct 25 2014, 09:34 PM
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What would be the best , 6 displacement ??? For stock ,wheels suspension, no flares . Etc . And if not doing all the above wouldn't you always at least have it to Stock 914-6 equlilvant spec . Which is what exactly for which displacement s 2.0 only ? Anyone ? |
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| ben*james |
Oct 26 2014, 09:28 AM
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 If you just gotta have a 6, and it's more about the destination than the journey: buy one. I saved parts, plotted a six conversion and I would still be on jack stands today if I didn't cave and buy a conversion. Instead, the last year has been spent driving with a big ole smile on my face. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| horizontally-opposed |
Oct 26 2014, 03:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,430 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(bcheney @ Oct 22 2014, 04:42 PM) The big bumpers are cool...I left them on my 1975 -6 conversion! Wow, I really like the factory finish 16x6s with the yellow paint and big bumpers. Your car is a handful of visual tweaks way from looking like the 914-6 would have for 1975-76 if Porsche hadn't pulled the plug. Way cool... pete |
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| Root_Werks |
Oct 27 2014, 11:00 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,298 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(ben*james @ Oct 26 2014, 08:28 AM) If you just gotta have a 6, and it's more about the destination than the journey: buy one. I saved parts, plotted a six conversion and I would still be on jack stands today if I didn't cave and buy a conversion. Instead, the last year has been spent driving with a big ole smile on my face. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) It's been proven over the years, you likely will not build a 914-6 conversion for what you could just buy one for. Unless you really want a project you can say "I did this" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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| Beeliner |
Oct 27 2014, 07:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 398 Joined: 2-August 14 From: Fairfield, CT Member No.: 17,725 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Oct 27 2014, 09:00 AM) QUOTE(ben*james @ Oct 26 2014, 08:28 AM) If you just gotta have a 6, and it's more about the destination than the journey: buy one. I saved parts, plotted a six conversion and I would still be on jack stands today if I didn't cave and buy a conversion. Instead, the last year has been spent driving with a big ole smile on my face. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) It's been proven over the years, you likely will not build a 914-6 conversion for what you could just buy one for. Unless you really want a project you can say "I did this" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) But it wouldn't be "I did this!"..... It would be "I [/i]paid[i] for this." Big difference... |
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| MoveQik |
Oct 27 2014, 10:23 PM
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What size wheels can I fit? Group: Members Posts: 4,645 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 3,881 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Beeliner @ Oct 27 2014, 06:03 PM) But it wouldn't be "I did this!"..... It would be "I [/i]paid[i] for this." Big difference... It is well known that I "paid" for a good portion of the mechanical work on my conversion. For no other reason than I don't have the skills to do a conversion. Maybe when I retire and my kid is out of the house I will have the time to learn how to do it all. IMHO, it makes it no less of a car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| mepstein |
Oct 28 2014, 04:57 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,213 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(MoveQik @ Oct 28 2014, 12:23 AM) QUOTE(Beeliner @ Oct 27 2014, 06:03 PM) But it wouldn't be "I did this!"..... It would be "I [/i]paid[i] for this." Big difference... It is well known that I "paid" for a good portion of the mechanical work on my conversion. For no other reason than I don't have the skills to do a conversion. Maybe when I retire and my kid is out of the house I will have the time to learn how to do it all. IMHO, it makes it no less of a car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) In many cases its insures its a driver instead of a jackstand ornament. |
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| Scott S |
Oct 28 2014, 12:13 PM
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I ruined a long standing "love affair" with a car I owned for over 20 years by doing a conversion. I did it all myself. It took the car off of the road for two years. When I was just about done, I found that I was going to have to overcome a tranmission shift linkage issue - which most likely would have required buying a new tranny (I had a tail and needed a side). That was the last straw. I lost all interest and bailed. Even as a six, I sold it for proabably half of what I had into just the conversion (I am a "while you are in there" type guy, however...).
Here is a pic of it being shipped to the new owner. I keep a copy at the shop so I dont change something I already like, just for the sake of change. My car ran and drove great as a four. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Just buy one. Trust me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) 
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