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barrym
post Nov 2 2014, 03:22 PM
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had a look over the plastic bumpers from my '75 914 and they have the 4 ring Audi logo on them ...

wtf ...
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post Nov 2 2014, 04:04 PM
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The whole NARP thing is just bullshit.

The 914 has a bunch of 911 parts in it, and a bunch of VW parts.

Then there is the 924. It is more of a NARP that the 914 ever was. It was designed by Porsche to be an Audi sports car, using all VW and Audi parts. It has an Audi motor, Super beetle front suspension, IRS beetle rear suspension, and an Audi transmission. There is not a single part on a 924 that has a Porsche part number When Audi decided not to build it, Porsche bought the rights to it. But it was never sold as a VW-Porsche, and it got a Porsche hood badge from the factory, so it is not a NARP. Go figure.


Frankly, I think the NARP thing is sour grapes on the part of the 911 drivers. To this day, the 914 kicks their asses on the track. I watched a 3.0L 914-6 lap 3/4 of the field at COTA, running against 911 GT3 cup cars.


Q. What did the 911 driver say as he went sideways off the turn?

A. "How in the hell did that 914 turn inside me?"


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post Nov 2 2014, 04:44 PM
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Almost all 356 motors used a VW fan shroud with welded up holes….
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post Nov 2 2014, 05:22 PM
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I used to drive a 993 as a DD. Meeting people at PCA events, I would get asked what I drive. I would always answer a 914. Helped me meet the right people.
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post Nov 2 2014, 06:53 PM
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The VW-Porsche 914 was designed by Porsche's Heinrich Klie, the same gentleman who designed the classic Porsche Fuchs wheel.

That being said, since VW and Porsche are now brands of the same company, the distinction of being a VW-Porsche is no longer all that distinctive.
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post Nov 2 2014, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Nov 2 2014, 03:07 PM) *

911's had VW parts scattered through them right into the 80's
Porsche engine intermediate bearings are VW (T1 and T4) cam bearing just drilled different.
Same suppliers, I'm sure VW used its clout with its supply chain to make sure Porsche got a good deal on it's needs.



Also some 911 distributor drive gears...
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post Nov 3 2014, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Nov 2 2014, 10:06 AM) *
........ Split personality disorder?
Yes.... Same as some of its owners.

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Nov 2 2014, 10:13 AM) *

NARP
NARVW either.... because....

QUOTE(RobW @ Nov 2 2014, 10:19 AM) *

.... its a drivers car.
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post Nov 3 2014, 12:02 PM
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Funny, when you thrash a 911 they invariably refer to your car as a Porsche...

I think the discussion is silly, even irritating. Who cares? Do you? Really? Then buy a 911 and it's solved. It's the same with wine snobs, try removing the label, then ask them what they think of the wine and most will begin to sputter. Genuine people will just take a sip and tell you what they think. Be friends with those people. So do you drink (or drive) the label? I've removed all the Porsche identifiers from my car because they're irrelevant. Irrelevant to me, anyway, and if someone asks I tell them it's a Fiat. I smile, they smile, and we're all happy.

No offense but I'm not downgrading to a 911. Not happening.
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post Nov 3 2014, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Nov 3 2014, 02:02 PM) *

No offense but I'm not downgrading to a 911. Not happening.

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It's much easier to increase the HP in a 914 than it is to make a 911 mid-engined.

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post Nov 3 2014, 03:39 PM
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ok, time for a dumb question:

What the heck is a NARP?
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post Nov 3 2014, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(chandler1969 @ Nov 3 2014, 04:39 PM) *

ok, time for a dumb question:

What the heck is a NARP?


"Not A Real Porsche."
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post Nov 3 2014, 03:49 PM
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If it's not a Porsche, you'll have a hard time convincing the DMV otherwise. That's whats on my registration at least.


That being said, anyone who really cares that much probably should be lumped in the with rest of the "P-car" crowd who cares far more about what badge is on the back of their car than what it can actually do in the hands of someone who knows how to really (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) it. Call mine whatever you like. I just drive the wheels off of it.
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post Nov 3 2014, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Nov 3 2014, 10:02 AM) *



No offense but I'm not downgrading to a 911. Not happening.


I solved that problem by getting one of each.
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post Nov 3 2014, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(Cuda911 @ Nov 3 2014, 02:50 PM) *

QUOTE(DBCooper @ Nov 3 2014, 10:02 AM) *



No offense but I'm not downgrading to a 911. Not happening.


I solved that problem by getting one of each.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) What problem?
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post Nov 3 2014, 04:52 PM
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post Nov 4 2014, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(Steve @ Nov 2 2014, 12:57 PM) *

Bottom line it was designed by Porsche. If you have owned an early 911 you will see the similarities. I am also a VW fan, so it doesn't matter to me that some of the components were sourced or made by VW. The 356 convertibles were also made at the Karmann factory.


This is exactly correct. You can also add the Cayenne as it was a joint venture with VW.

The components that make up that iPhone in your pocket are made by a dozen companies and is assembled by 2 Taiwanese companies, yet it is an Apple product.

The NARP argument is outdated and irrelevant.
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post Nov 4 2014, 12:26 AM
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Which do you want it to be?
That's the beauty of this model. You can make it go any way you want.
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post Nov 4 2014, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(Steve Snyder @ Nov 2 2014, 05:53 PM) *


That being said, since VW and Porsche are now brands of the same company, the distinction of being a VW-Porsche is no longer all that distinctive.

Now days it is even less clear cut.

So it is pretty widely known that Volkswagen AG bought or took over Porsche AG a few years back. Porsche AG is only the Automotive manufacturing part of Porsche.

Porsche Automobil Holding SE still owns Porsche Design Group, Porsche Engineering and a controlling interest (50.76%) in Volkswagen AG.

So Volkswagen owns Porsche but Porsche owns Volkswagen??
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post Nov 4 2014, 08:44 AM
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It is so much more than just a"car" and it would be fun to drive if it were made by Diahatsu.!! Ok Maybe not. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) The teener has original Porsche DNA. It could be argued that it is more Porsche than a 911. The Boxter is just the Teeners grandchild. Forget who builds the parts. Or who happens to own the company at this particular moment in time. Think of the concept. Horizontally opposed mid -engine 2 seat SPORTS CAR !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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QUOTE(jcd914 @ Nov 4 2014, 02:55 AM) *

Now days it is even less clear cut.

So it is pretty widely known that Volkswagen AG bought or took over Porsche AG a few years back. Porsche AG is only the Automotive manufacturing part of Porsche.

Porsche Automobil Holding SE still owns Porsche Design Group, Porsche Engineering and a controlling interest (50.76%) in Volkswagen AG.

So Volkswagen owns Porsche but Porsche owns Volkswagen??

Yes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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