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BeatNavy
post Nov 11 2014, 07:27 PM
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Ok, here goes. I picked up this '75 last April in lower Maryland. It was advertised as a 2.0, it has a 2.0 badge on the back, and it looked pretty good from a distance (or with beer goggles).





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post Jan 11 2015, 01:08 PM
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Ok, last weekend was replacing bearings and tranny seals on my other teener – very greasy and dirty – this weekend it’s back to IOMH (in over my head) restoration and getting dusty. What better way to spend a weekend than in a cold garage cutting steel and bondo? So I put aside some time and did some more exploratory surgery. I’ll have at least three more stupid questions for anyone that can answer them as I assess and figure out how to repair:

1. The long up to the door frame
2. The suspension console and long inside engine bay
3. The hell hole itself

Based on what I saw this weekend, I think the “RD shopping list” Scotty helpfully put together for me in post #20 is looking pretty accurate about now.

First the long under the door. Cut away some more steel and here’s what I have (apologies for picture quality and lighting):

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What??? Leftover mouse stuff in the heater channels?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/new_shocked.gif) My first reactions to this are a) where did God’s little rodents live prior to the first 914? and b) is my spot-weld removing technique actually worse than my welding? Anyway, there was a fair amount of loose rust and other gunk in the longs. The lower third of the inner shell is possibly salvageable, but it gets to the question I have on this. Here are a couple of other views first:
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And, after some cleanup and chipping away the loose and rusted metal:
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So here is first stupid question, or set of stupid questions, for today (#4 overall): What I didn’t realize is that there are two layers of steel on the horizontal section of the long. Is that correct? I’m trying to decide if that’s the way it’s built or not. But I also see what might be a seam right underneath the first bracket for the heater hose. It’s rusted so much it’s hard to tell, but maybe that’s a layer of steel from a previous PO fix. In the picture above you can see the jagged edges where I’ve torn out one layer of rusty metal up to just under the heat pipe. The lower layer doesn’t look bad. The top layer has a lot of surface rust that could probably be treated and sealed.

Should I simply cut out that top layer to some point and fabricate a replacement to weld in attached to the inner shell and then marry up the outer long piece? I see how George cut the whole bottom section out and welded a horizontal section along a good portion of the long as shown here: College Budget Restoration

I guess the answer may sort of depend on whether there are really two layers of metal there and whether or not one or both should be replaced. If there aren’t two layers along that long, I think I can minimize the actual fabrication and replacement required on that inner long.

Oh, and the seat belt mount came out in the process. I’m not sure whether or not that can be cleaned up or not. I may have to fabricate a solution there. Right now that's not the biggest issue I have, as I'll post something on the suspension console soon...

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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jan 11 2015, 11:08 AM) *
Oh, and the seat belt mount came out in the process. I’m not sure whether or not that can be cleaned up or not. I may have to fabricate a solution there.

Just get a new one ...
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 11 2015, 03:13 PM) *

QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jan 11 2015, 11:08 AM) *
Oh, and the seat belt mount came out in the process. I’m not sure whether or not that can be cleaned up or not. I may have to fabricate a solution there.

Just get a new one ...
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Haven't seen them listed before, but if they are available it's probably the cheapest fabricated part I'll end up buying. Cool, thanks Andy.
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jan 11 2015, 12:17 PM) *
Haven't seen them listed before, but if they are available it's probably the cheapest fabricated part I'll end up buying. Cool, thanks Andy.

Hmmm, i remember someone making those, but now i can't find them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


The bolt/thread is M11 X 1.25 just in case you end up making your own ...
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BeatNavy   In Over My Head Restoration   Nov 11 2014, 07:27 PM
BeatNavy   But when I got it home I found that it was actuall...   Nov 11 2014, 07:31 PM
BeatNavy   Anyway, I picked up a 2.0 engine that's been b...   Nov 11 2014, 07:38 PM
Elliot Cannon   Who did your pre-buy inspection? :poke: :D   Nov 11 2014, 07:39 PM
BeatNavy   Who did your pre-buy inspection? :poke: :D Som...   Nov 11 2014, 07:45 PM
BeatNavy   Now I just need to get this thing up on the rotiss...   Nov 11 2014, 07:45 PM
BeatNavy   The rotisserie very conveniently comes with some d...   Nov 11 2014, 07:54 PM
ThePaintedMan   Rob, Awesome man! You've got good folks...   Nov 11 2014, 08:18 PM
BeatNavy   Rob, Awesome man! You've got good folk...   Nov 11 2014, 08:24 PM
altitude411   Subbed to watch Rob build an awesome teener. :he...   Nov 11 2014, 08:33 PM
BeatNavy   Subbed to watch Rob build an awesome teener. :h...   Nov 12 2014, 07:13 AM
PanelBilly   I'd strip the suspension off the car before tr...   Nov 11 2014, 10:33 PM
saigon71   A rotisserie will be a big help in bringing this o...   Nov 12 2014, 06:56 AM
BeatNavy   Happy New Year everyone. It’s been a while sinc...   Jan 1 2015, 05:29 PM
barefoot   Anyway, after removing the drive axels with a gear...   Jan 3 2015, 04:17 PM
BeatNavy   Then it was time to start cutting. I’ve spent w...   Jan 1 2015, 05:30 PM
rhodyguy   Wow.   Jan 1 2015, 06:10 PM
billh1963   looks like you are well into it! :sawzall:   Jan 1 2015, 06:19 PM
993inNC   Here comes the real fun :D Took mine five years to...   Jan 1 2015, 06:49 PM
BeatNavy   Here comes the real fun :D Took mine five years t...   Jan 1 2015, 06:54 PM
scotty b   white shocks indicate KYB....toss them in the tras...   Jan 1 2015, 07:15 PM
BeatNavy   Excellent, thanks for the input, Scotty. I'll...   Jan 1 2015, 07:28 PM
mepstein   Excellent, thanks for the input, Scotty. I'l...   Jan 3 2015, 01:30 PM
type47   Incredible thread for a guy who joined 914world in...   Jan 3 2015, 08:01 AM
BeatNavy   Incredible thread for a guy who joined 914world i...   Jan 3 2015, 11:26 AM
ThePaintedMan   Wow, nice progress Rob! Unfortunate that you e...   Jan 3 2015, 08:20 AM
ThePaintedMan   Yep, not a bad idea to strip the trunks as well. M...   Jan 3 2015, 11:55 AM
BeatNavy   Yes, you do need to remove the starter to get th...   Jan 3 2015, 02:32 PM
r_towle   Not sure I am following this along, but don't ...   Jan 3 2015, 03:47 PM
type47   I believe he's referring to his other daily dr...   Jan 3 2015, 04:06 PM
BeatNavy   I believe he's referring to his other daily d...   Jan 3 2015, 05:45 PM
r_towle   Makes sense considering you are a long way from wo...   Jan 3 2015, 06:40 PM
BeatNavy   Ok, last weekend was replacing bearings and tranny...   Jan 11 2015, 01:08 PM
SirAndy   Oh, and the seat belt mount came out in the proces...   Jan 11 2015, 02:13 PM
BeatNavy   Oh, and the seat belt mount came out in the proce...   Jan 11 2015, 02:17 PM
SirAndy   Haven't seen them listed before, but if they a...   Jan 11 2015, 02:44 PM
boxsterfan   I really think you should change those jack stands...   Jan 11 2015, 01:33 PM
BeatNavy   I really think you should change those jack stand...   Jan 11 2015, 01:46 PM
Tilly74   :trophy: Great work! You inspire the rest of ...   Jan 11 2015, 02:08 PM
BeatNavy   Yikes. That's scary, and yes, you are right. ...   Jan 11 2015, 02:14 PM
BeatNavy   As much money as I'm fixin' to spend at RD...   Jan 11 2015, 02:52 PM
BeatNavy   Ok, I’m also taking assessment of the suspension...   Jan 11 2015, 02:59 PM
SirAndy   what other recommendations can you provide (e.g. m...   Jan 11 2015, 03:16 PM
scotty b   what other recommendations can you provide (e.g. ...   Jan 11 2015, 04:51 PM
BeatNavy   Thank you, fellas. A jig, eh? With the help of t...   Jan 11 2015, 05:26 PM
mepstein   Thank you, fellas. A jig, eh? With the help of ...   Jan 11 2015, 06:23 PM
Grump   Roy, Too bad you are not closer than 2 hours. I c...   Jan 11 2015, 05:53 PM
BeatNavy   Roy, Too bad you are not closer than 2 hours. I ...   Jan 11 2015, 06:42 PM
scotty b   Roy, Too bad you are not closer than 2 hours. I...   Jan 11 2015, 06:45 PM
Grump   oops, Roy... where did Rob come from?   Jan 11 2015, 05:54 PM
scotty b   With all the metal you'll be replacing you rea...   Jan 11 2015, 06:34 PM
BeatNavy   Roger that. It makes sense. I guess I'm brea...   Jan 11 2015, 06:51 PM
BeatNavy   Small update. My homework assignment was to build ...   Jan 24 2015, 07:23 PM
scotty b   There's no easy, pleasant, fast, or fun way to...   Jan 24 2015, 07:43 PM
BeatNavy   Thanks Scotty. My buddy has a plasma cutter - up i...   Jan 24 2015, 07:52 PM
cary   Rob here's a pattern I found for the console t...   Jan 24 2015, 11:41 PM
BeatNavy   Rob here's a pattern I found for the console ...   Jan 25 2015, 07:35 AM
saigon71   You are tackling some serious rust! The suspe...   Jan 25 2015, 07:51 AM
BeatNavy   You are tackling some serious rust! The susp...   Jan 25 2015, 04:36 PM
FourBlades   Its clear you have the skills to do this right...   Jan 25 2015, 08:36 AM
BeatNavy   Its clear you have the skills to do this right...   Jan 25 2015, 04:38 PM
mepstein   here's a thread of scotty doing a suspension c...   Jan 25 2015, 04:55 PM
BeatNavy   here's a thread of scotty doing a suspension ...   Jan 25 2015, 05:10 PM
scotty b   here's a thread of scotty doing a suspension ...   Jan 25 2015, 06:36 PM
saigon71   Rob: Here are some cross section pictures of a cu...   Jan 26 2015, 06:59 PM
BeatNavy   Awesome, thanks Bob! I've been wrestling ...   Jan 26 2015, 07:17 PM
BeatNavy   Small update. I didn't work last weekend (was...   Feb 9 2015, 07:58 AM
altitude411   Nice work. What are your thoughts on the (blair) ...   Feb 9 2015, 08:18 AM
BeatNavy   Nice work. What are your thoughts on the (blair)...   Feb 9 2015, 08:25 AM
cary   Does the bottom of the upper already have a patch ...   Feb 9 2015, 08:19 AM
BeatNavy   Does the bottom of the upper already have a patch...   Feb 9 2015, 08:27 AM
BeatNavy   Ok, I got the suspension console back from the str...   Feb 13 2015, 06:55 PM
BeatNavy   I also got the wheelhouse and inner long pieces fr...   Feb 13 2015, 06:56 PM
scotty b   IMO you really should cut out that rotted area. Yo...   Feb 13 2015, 07:49 PM
Cairo94507   Please take the advise of the man who knows of wha...   Feb 13 2015, 09:49 PM
BeatNavy   Please take the advise of the man who knows of wh...   Feb 14 2015, 08:05 AM
Han Solo   Awesome. Go man, go!   Feb 15 2015, 07:58 AM


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