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> 2015 20th Anniversary Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance Photo Thread + 914 World Member Meet and Drive to the Concours, Let's caravan with pride in our ride! Meet itinerary post#59 / Concours photo content begins pg3 / Please RSVP for Meet + Breakfast and Drive post#110
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post Mar 20 2015, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Mar 20 2015, 05:55 PM) *

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Thanks for the detail shots of the #2 Nurburgring car. It really gets me thinking about the mercurial legacy of the 914. On the one hand, a racing platform that proved almost too good for Porsche marketing purposes, while as a humble, entry-level sports car for the masses it carried such state of the art elements as 4 wheel disc brakes, rack and pinion steering, independent rear suspension, optimal weight distribution and air cooled simplicity. Combine that with flexible storage at both ends, spacious cabin for two, a rigid removable top that stows in seconds without robbing space, thrifty fuel consumption and a huge fuel tank for long range cruising and you have a blazing star streaking across the automotive universe....disappearing before many even saw the flash.


Some interesting points that I have always believed, but it is difficult for a company to face having a lower cost product be superior (or at least more bang for the buck) to its high end product. The Cayman has faced some of these hurdles - many consider it superior to the 911 at a lower price point.

I will digress on one of your comments though - 50/50 weight distribution. In its day that was considered optimal and a design achievement, but in todays world the preference is to rear bias. Interesting how things change.


Actually, I think the 914/4 weight distribution is 46/54, putting it at an optimal level today and ahead of the curve in 1970.


All depends on whose numbers you believe, I've seen anywhere from 46/54 to 49/51. Obviously the Sixes were more rear balanced. Nonetheless many favor more than 55 in the rear for street and track, but others don't - too many factors to make it cut it dry. From a post of mine a while back:

914 - 49/51
Cayman - 36/64
991 - 42/58
Gallardo - 42/58
Murcielago - 42/58
F360 - 43/57
F50 - 42/58
Noble M15 - 42/58
Audi R8 - 44/56
Ariel Atom - 32/68
Elise - 38/62

But either way, it was considered a well balanced car in the day, and as originally stated, somewhat technically sophisticated for its era and price range. It's a shame Porsche didn't have a better contract with VW and a better marketing plan.

One last note. There have been many comments that Amelia puts us on the map with the (choose your negative adjective here) 356 and 911 owners. For me, I find Porsche owners are generally interested in my 914, and in general those who are car knowledgeable show interest.

In all reality, my 914 draws more attention and positive comments from car people than my Carrera does.
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post Mar 20 2015, 06:51 PM
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This gas burners look too narrow, and were certainly place keepers for something else. I would not let my car be shown that way, but maybe someone knows something I don't. You get one chance in the sun at Amelia Island and you show those?

Can someone fill me in on why the car had those wheels on it?
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post Mar 20 2015, 09:56 PM
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This gas burners look too narrow, and were certainly place keepers for something else. I would not let my car be shown that way, but maybe someone knows something I don't. You get one chance in the sun at Amelia Island and you show those?

Can someone fill me in on why the car had those wheels on it?

Photos from back in the day ...

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I was thinking the same thing.

But I think it was displayed as it was raced in the Monte Carlo Rallye.
It was a snow and ice rallye.
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post Mar 20 2015, 11:30 PM
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I was thinking the same until I looked closer at the pic- those are snow tires all around and for the rally conditions you'd want heavily treaded pizza cutters... they look as if they may be studded too.
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1970 Porsche 914/6 GT - #88 "fly Lufthansa"
One of the first eleven factory GTs made, this GT features the unique double gas tank system for the racing team Dorner and Schwartz. In 1970 it won 2nd in its class and set the 1000 km lap record for its class at Nurburgring.

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I love these factory GT seats! They are way cool! I like these much better than the straight angled "GT" seats we see made. I'd love to have these on a /6 conversion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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Great pictures of the GT cars! I like seeing the little differences between the four of them.
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1971 914/6 GT - Brumos #58 (#59)

This Brumos car was entered by Peter Gregg and Hurley Haywood in the 6 hour IMSA at Watkins Glen in 1971. It raced under the infamous #59. In 1972 it was bought by Hector Rebaque and raced in the IMSA race in Bridgehampton, Daytona 6 Hours and Sebring 12 Hours. After restoration, the car was retired and has not raced since.

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QUOTE(jgara962 @ Mar 21 2015, 10:35 AM) *

Great pictures of the GT cars! I like seeing the little differences between the four of them.

Thanks! I wanted to post several pictures of each car just for that purpose since we don't ever get to see these cars in person and a few pictures already online don't show nearly enough. Plus different people may prefer different perspectives and angles so I wanted to post a decent variety. I actually have more pics of each car. There's more 914s from the show to come! Glad you guys are enjoying these. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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QUOTE(tumamilhem @ Mar 21 2015, 06:45 AM) *

I love these factory GT seats! They are way cool! I like these much better than the straight angled "GT" seats we see made. I'd love to have these on a /6 conversion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

The GTS seats look pretty close to this.
http://www.classiccarseats.com
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It would be nice if we could have all the pictures posted in their own locked thread as a reference. Maybe in the Paddock form?
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QUOTE(jgara962 @ Mar 21 2015, 11:21 AM) *

It would be nice if we could have all the pictures posted in their own locked thread as a reference. Maybe in the Paddock form?

I'm not sure how that works. I suppose if it's locked, I'd have to finish posting the pics of the cars first. Still more to come. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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very cool pics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

thanks for sharing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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does anybody know the VINs of these two cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


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1971 914/6 GT - Brumos #59

One of just 11 1971 factory 914/6 GTs, This was legendary Porsche driver Hurley Haywood's first race car, driven in his first professional race and first professional win. Peter Gregg and Hurley Haywood raced this car's first win at Virginia International Raceway in April of 1971 and also won Bridgehampton and Summer Point, as well as five class wins and won the 1971 IMSA championship in #59. After restoration in 1988, Hurley raced #59 for its first vintage win in West Palm Beach.

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