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post Dec 14 2014, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 14 2014, 03:01 PM) *

It has a 4.44 Legacy Transmission. That's all I know.
Should I hold onto the inner cv's or are they different for a manual.

I've heard (famous last words) that the Legacy and SVX trans are the same except for the final drive. They're a 4EA automatic and they went bad in the SVX because the torque of the 3.3 coupled with the weight of that car with AWD was too much for it to handle without better cooling. I have a piggyback TCU and an auxiliary cooler I'll be using on mine- just wanna see how well it works. I've driven rnellums 3.0 Subie conversion with the 5 speed (very generous, Thank you Ross!) and it's the total package, really! I just want to go sideways for awhile... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Dec 14 2014, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Dec 14 2014, 04:33 PM) *
I've driven rnellums 3.0 Subie conversion with the 5 speed (very generous, Thank you Ross!) and it's the total package, really! I just want to go sideways for awhile... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Wow, he does that? Very cool, so do I. You can't really tell people about it, words fail, and I tend to get so enthusiastic that I could understand if people get skeptical, like you're trying to sell them something. Giving them a ride is good but there's NOTHING like just giving them the keys and letting them drive it. No questions after that. None. It's fun.


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post Dec 15 2014, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Dec 14 2014, 06:25 PM) *

QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Dec 14 2014, 04:33 PM) *
I've driven rnellums 3.0 Subie conversion with the 5 speed (very generous, Thank you Ross!) and it's the total package, really! I just want to go sideways for awhile... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Wow, he does that? Very cool, so do I. You can't really tell people about it, words fail, and I tend to get so enthusiastic that I could understand if people get skeptical, like you're trying to sell them something. Giving them a ride is good but there's NOTHING like just giving them the keys and letting them drive it. No questions after that. None. It's fun.

The weight of a passenger added into our "power to weight ratio" formula reduces that by about a 8-10%. Mine will go sideways with a passenger but it is much more pronounced if solo.
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post Dec 15 2014, 10:26 AM
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I wish I'd gone with a Subaru 6cyl in my conversion. The turbo is going to be fun, but I'd be done by now if I'd gone the 6 route. The intercooler is my biggest issue right now.
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post Dec 15 2014, 12:07 PM
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I spent an hour in and around Bob's (BIGKAT_83's) EZ30D car on Saturday. What a great car that is. Perfectly balanced. You could drive it anywhere. Temp needle never moved.
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post Dec 15 2014, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Dec 15 2014, 08:51 AM) *

QUOTE(DBCooper @ Dec 14 2014, 06:25 PM) *

QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Dec 14 2014, 04:33 PM) *
I've driven rnellums 3.0 Subie conversion with the 5 speed (very generous, Thank you Ross!) and it's the total package, really! I just want to go sideways for awhile... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Wow, he does that? Very cool, so do I. You can't really tell people about it, words fail, and I tend to get so enthusiastic that I could understand if people get skeptical, like you're trying to sell them something. Giving them a ride is good but there's NOTHING like just giving them the keys and letting them drive it. No questions after that. None. It's fun.

The weight of a passenger added into our "power to weight ratio" formula reduces that by about a 8-10%. Mine will go sideways with a passenger but it is much more pronounced if solo.

He was riding shotgun- no fool he! And I didn't mean sideways like tire burning sideways, I'm just modifying the SVX auto trans because I've got it and it's one thing less I have to deal with before WCR. I may end up with a 5 or 6 speed manual but for now I want to do something I haven't heard of before. Who knows- I might even like it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Dec 15 2014, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Dec 14 2014, 07:25 PM) *

QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Dec 14 2014, 04:33 PM) *
I've driven rnellums 3.0 Subie conversion with the 5 speed (very generous, Thank you Ross!) and it's the total package, really! I just want to go sideways for awhile... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Wow, he does that? Very cool, so do I. You can't really tell people about it, words fail, and I tend to get so enthusiastic that I could understand if people get skeptical, like you're trying to sell them something. Giving them a ride is good but there's NOTHING like just giving them the keys and letting them drive it. No questions after that. None. It's fun.

You are spot on! Plus it's fun to watch the look on their faces. The kicker is that you aren't ever afraid of anything breaking down ( at least I don't let it bother me) because even if they waste a 5mt, you are really only out 100$ and an afternoon!
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post Dec 15 2014, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(rnellums @ Dec 15 2014, 10:56 PM) *

QUOTE(DBCooper @ Dec 14 2014, 07:25 PM) *

QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Dec 14 2014, 04:33 PM) *
I've driven rnellums 3.0 Subie conversion with the 5 speed (very generous, Thank you Ross!) and it's the total package, really! I just want to go sideways for awhile... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Wow, he does that? Very cool, so do I. You can't really tell people about it, words fail, and I tend to get so enthusiastic that I could understand if people get skeptical, like you're trying to sell them something. Giving them a ride is good but there's NOTHING like just giving them the keys and letting them drive it. No questions after that. None. It's fun.

You are spot on! Plus it's fun to watch the look on their faces. The kicker is that you aren't ever afraid of anything breaking down ( at least I don't let it bother me) because even if they waste a 5mt, you are really only out 100$ and an afternoon!

let me know where to find the $100, or even $200 5mt trans. I'm clueless for this part. thanks.
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post Dec 16 2014, 05:46 AM
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You can find the older (weaker) ones in the junkyard no problem. I'm Denver that's about 125 with clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, and state. I also bought a 2003 2.5 rs transmission off craigs for 200.
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post Dec 16 2014, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(rnellums @ Dec 16 2014, 06:46 AM) *

You can find the older (weaker) ones in the junkyard no problem. I'm Denver that's about 125 with clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, and state. I also bought a 2003 2.5 rs transmission off craigs for 200.

I'm clueless about trans. Will have to have someone help me find one. I would like it to be complete. Budget build.
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post Dec 16 2014, 07:05 AM
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If you can weld you can make your own FWD lockout too and save some dough. I also make my own transmission block off plate too out of diamond plate.
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post Dec 16 2014, 07:14 AM
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If you can weld you can make your own FWD lockout too and save some dough. I also make my own transmission block off plate too out of diamond plate.

i dont weld. coldwater will supply those parts. I already bought one of Ian's engine cradles and trans mounts from a member here.
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QUOTE(rnellums @ Dec 16 2014, 08:05 AM) *

If you can weld you can make your own FWD lockout too and save some dough. I also make my own transmission block off plate too out of diamond plate.


i dont weld.


And just why the Hell not. Go by a welder and get started! That's the way most of us have done it. Your no different. I've heard that even Dr. Evil can weld. Seriously Epps, after a few minutes you'll be tack welding and shortly there after laying beads. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Dec 16 2014, 10:26 PM
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Wait wait wait? A 4.44 trany? Did someone do a tranny swap? They must have! The bigger problem with the svx autos was the final gear ratio was to low and the fluid did flow at a high enough rate to cool properly. Final ratio was like 3.90.
The 4.44 trany would be preferable. Is the tranny in you svx a manual?

It to bad you live on the other coast, I have a 2000 5speed I got just to measure the insides. I would almost give it to you.
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post Dec 17 2014, 07:11 AM
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Wait wait wait? A 4.44 trany? Did someone do a tranny swap? They must have! The bigger problem with the svx autos was the final gear ratio was to low and the fluid did flow at a high enough rate to cool properly. Final ratio was like 3.90.
The 4.44 trany would be preferable. Is the tranny in you svx a manual?

It to bad you live on the other coast, I have a 2000 5speed I got just to measure the insides. I would almost give it to you.

It had a trany swap but it's an auto
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Is the 6 from the svx the same one that came in the Legacy with the H6 badging?
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post Dec 17 2014, 07:58 AM
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That trans is valuable to SVX guys if it's the upgraded one....4.44 rings a bell... You could sell it on SVXWorld or subaru-SVX.net. The rear diff is probably upgraded as well if it was done correctly so you need to check that. They need to be sold as a pair.

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Do you intend to use an automatic? When I was trying to find just Subaru inner CV joints (part number 28392FE020) that same inner CV was used in both manual and automatic transmissions. I was interested in applications, what cars would have the CV's (DOJ's) I needed, so I didn't look further, but that should mean that an automatic transmission's axles would be adaptable, interchangeable with manual transmissions. You'll need to check to confirm all that, but if you can use manual transmission inner CV's that should make fitting an automatic a bit easier. Check that CV number at some place like parts.com to see all the applications.


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Is the 6 from the svx the same one that came in the Legacy with the H6 badging?


No, the SVX engine is the EG33, the later Legacy engines are the EZ30, which is a really nice engine in itself, more modern with chain driven cams and only an inch longer than the four cylinders motors. It has almost WRX horsepower with a naturally aspirated engine... plus it's plentiful and cheap.


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so…the EZ30 would be a direct application for my 97' legacy wagon? for a rather big car the 2.5 moves well. how cheap is cheap?
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