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914bub |
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After waiting 2 years to get my car to me,and another year sorting issues, replacing the clutch etc. I'm down to needing first gear. I have 2nd through 5th and reverse. I've read every thread I can find about shifter adjustment. Most pertain to side shifter transmissions but usually say that the process is similar, just different adjustment points for a tail shifter.
Can anybody tell me how to get 1st gear? Unlike other cars I've owned, it grinds when trying to get into first. The other cars I've owned might grind but you could "push past" the grind and jamb it into gear.It's almost like there isn't enough shifter throw to get it into 1st gear. I've replaced the ball cup bushing at the base of the shifter and have all the other bushings to replace the whole set. I've inspected the others and they don't seem wasted. I've tried putting it into first before starting the car and it's the same issue. Shifter doesn't have enough throw..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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dangrouche ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 550 Joined: 1-May 04 From: San Francisco Bay Area Member No.: 2,012 Region Association: None ![]() |
I bought the side shifted engine crossmember and linkage, I'm working on a shifter now. PS my whole family is from Duluth! ......I'm from Kalamazoo I bet you are at least able to work outside most days. After a look at your photos I would suggest a complete tear down. You may be lucky, but first completely failed, so how far is second? You may get lucky with the higher gears, but looks like the new transmissions are a good idea. Good luck! Yea, I realize I'm cobbling it together for now. I'd like to try replacing the first gear parts to buy some time. I don't want to invest money in this trans because I'm real close to a side shift conversion. In the mean time I'm riding my motorcycle 50 miles each way to work in the fog and freezing my butt off. I just cracked open the core and the parts look better. I'll pop some pix this afternoon.looks like the speedo drive gear is held on with a roll pin? no; you need a deep 30mm drive socket AND an air impact gun to spin off that speedo drive gear. it looks from your donor, you can cobble together enough parts to get you a working first gear. |
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Send me your transmission! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
You will need to lock the trans in 1 and 5 to hold the shafts from turning while you use the 30mm deep socket on the bolt. Should be about 80-90ft/lb. Dont lock the gears if the stack is not in the case and not in a jig. The shafts will pull apart and you will chip a tooth....ask me how I learned that one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tooth.gif)
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Ski Bum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 ![]() |
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Send me your transmission! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
Both are shit. Sorry. The wear on the better one is still too much. Like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.
The profile pic, while well done, is not useful as the teeth wear from the inside out so you dont see anything on the outside profile until it is all done. You should have one good set attached to one of your spare gears, no? |
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Ski Bum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 ![]() |
QUOTE As you can see the one on the left of both these photos I would consider not usable. The ones on the right would be passable but still not ideal. I guess I wasn't clear, I wouldn't use either but if you are looking for better or worse you have to choose the one on the right. I was trying to show that even the ones he showed in his photo's have issues. |
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Send me your transmission! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
QUOTE As you can see the one on the left of both these photos I would consider not usable. The ones on the right would be passable but still not ideal. I guess I wasn't clear, I wouldn't use either but if you are looking for better or worse you have to choose the one on the right. I was trying to show that even the ones he showed in his photo's have issues. Ah, then yes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
914bub |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 16-August 13 From: Modesto CA. Member No.: 16,260 Region Association: None ![]() |
I have another question. I'm ready to button up my transmission but in looking at the picture below,(stolen from OU8AVW's thread), the short shaft on the upper right that holds the counter gear came off of my trans, attached to the rear housing. It seems impossible trying to line up the fat washer with the half moon cut out to line up. Should I tap that short shaft out of the rear housing and tap it into the trans, or should it be attached to the rear housing?
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Send me your transmission! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
Dude, stop! Do not remove the shaft. That is not the correct way to do it at all.
Place the tranz bell housing down, you may want to put some wood under it so it sits vertical. Place the notch washer down, the flat bearing on top, the reverse gear, the bearings and spacer inside of it; bearing-spacer-bearing. Then, make sure they are all lined up by looking inside the bore. Drop the tail cone on slowly. The usual hitch is that the flat bearing moves, but you can push it into place with a screwdriver. It is stupid easy and what you posted above is just way wrong. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 16-August 13 From: Modesto CA. Member No.: 16,260 Region Association: None ![]() |
Dude, stop! Do not remove the shaft. That is not the correct way to do it at all. Place the tranz bell housing down, you may want to put some wood under it so it sits vertical. Place the notch washer down, the flat bearing on top, the reverse gear, the bearings and spacer inside of it; bearing-spacer-bearing. Then, make sure they are all lined up by looking inside the bore. Drop the tail cone on slowly. The usual hitch is that the flat bearing moves, but you can push it into place with a screwdriver. It is stupid easy and what you posted above is just way wrong. I hear ya. I only asked because I saw the pic with the shaft on the trans. The problem with your method is getting the car to balance on its front bumper since I'm doing it in the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I was going to try grease on the washer in question to hold it in place |
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