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> D_jet trouble shooting question - car is home, journey continues, June, update- no more problem-- the fix was simple....
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post Dec 15 2014, 12:39 PM
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OK. car has been in shop for the past week, and today Bob spent several hours on it but what he found was when the MPS is disconnected from the vac hose it will idle and run, but when it gets connected it goes immediately lean and dies, and will not run with that hose on there- the MPS holds Vac no loss of pressure, but that doesnt mean that its not bad.
1- i thought that if an MPS went bad it defaulted rich? but when this is getting vac it goes lean right away and dies. but it will run and idle with out the vac , the AF meter then shows 9.8-10.2 or so which is of course rich but not flooding out.

so the question is why is it going lean when hooked up? when this issue started about 2 weeks ago, it had been running just fine and all of a sudden it quit running.

2. could there be another issue we dont see that would be making it way to lean other than the MPS?

might need to test another MPS, my 2nd one i just bought from someone here and it has never been opened but will not hold vac (slowly looses vac pressure) so it probably need to be opened and re-sealed. not a good candidate to trouble shoot with. ------

FYI- 1975 d-jet 2.0. newer wiring harness , CHT is newish(replaced 2 months before this issue started and was running perfect at that time)
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Philip W.   D_jet trouble shooting question - car is home, journey continues   Dec 15 2014, 12:39 PM
SLITS   D-Jet Trouble Shooting On the MPS check the ohms...   Dec 15 2014, 12:44 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   There might be a couple things going on here. If ...   Dec 15 2014, 01:22 PM
Philip W.   There might be a couple things going on here. If...   Dec 15 2014, 03:16 PM
76-914   :WTF: That ain't right. :screwy: I've got ...   Dec 15 2014, 05:06 PM
r_towle   Flip the plug over on the MPS   Dec 15 2014, 05:07 PM
Dave_Darling   The MPS plug is bi-directional; flipping it should...   Dec 15 2014, 05:59 PM
r_towle   The MPS plug is bi-directional; flipping it shoul...   Dec 15 2014, 09:35 PM
worn   The MPS plug is bi-directional; flipping it shou...   Dec 18 2014, 01:21 PM
Philip W.   Dave, my fuel pressue is right at 30. I dont think...   Dec 15 2014, 08:10 PM
SLITS   A bad CHT can cause bad problems as in the car not...   Dec 15 2014, 09:02 PM
Philip W.   A bad CHT can cause bad problems as in the car no...   Dec 15 2014, 09:42 PM
914bub   Not trying to Hi-jack here, but one of the hoses t...   Dec 15 2014, 09:13 PM
BeatNavy   Not trying to Hi-jack here, but one of the hoses ...   Dec 15 2014, 09:23 PM
Dave_Darling   Not trying to Hi-jack here, but one of the hoses ...   Dec 16 2014, 10:48 AM
r_towle   Get the car home. you can do all the testing with ...   Dec 15 2014, 10:55 PM
Philip W.   Get the car home. you can do all the testing with...   Dec 16 2014, 07:17 AM
r_towle   Get the car home. I can send you down the official...   Dec 16 2014, 09:18 AM
r_towle   Oh, an interesting test. Have your mechanic unplug...   Dec 16 2014, 11:08 AM
Bleyseng   Oh, an interesting test. Have your mechanic unplu...   Dec 16 2014, 08:13 PM
brant   I've seen this once before. Ron's 74 LE d...   Dec 16 2014, 10:00 PM
Philip W.   [url=http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/DJetPar...   Dec 17 2014, 01:00 PM
SLITS   i went over and tested the MPS at lunch time- hol...   Dec 17 2014, 02:19 PM
Philip W.   i went over and tested the MPS at lunch time- ho...   Dec 17 2014, 02:22 PM
Spoke   i went over and tested the MPS at lunch time- hol...   Dec 17 2014, 04:00 PM
76-914   i went over and tested the MPS at lunch time- ho...   Dec 18 2014, 09:33 AM
Philip W.   going to re-test that CHT, and see wheere the valu...   Dec 18 2014, 09:38 AM
SLITS   If you have a digital multimeter and it read ...   Dec 17 2014, 02:57 PM
Java2570   Phil, you've got a bizarre one going there...   Dec 17 2014, 03:45 PM
Java2570   Did you ever try out that spare ECU I sent down? ...   Dec 17 2014, 03:49 PM
Philip W.   Usually a really lean condition will still run but...   Dec 17 2014, 07:54 PM
r_towle   Oh, you have already adjusted the MPS from the sto...   Dec 17 2014, 08:41 PM
Philip W.   Oh, you have already adjusted the MPS from the st...   Dec 18 2014, 09:29 AM
Philip W.   alright a bit of an update: just spoke with Bob Wo...   Dec 18 2014, 10:41 AM
Philip W.   Picked up the car tonight and drove it home. A/F m...   Dec 18 2014, 11:21 PM
Racer Chris   Picked up the car tonight and drove it home. A/F ...   Dec 19 2014, 07:13 AM
Philip W.   Picked up the car tonight and drove it home. A/F...   Dec 19 2014, 02:22 PM
Dave_Darling   So what did you do in order to drive the car home?...   Dec 19 2014, 01:39 AM
Philip W.   So what did you do in order to drive the car home...   Dec 19 2014, 05:32 AM
brant   Was that mps a brand new one? Sounds jet exactly l...   Dec 19 2014, 08:40 AM
Philip W.   Was that mps a brand new one? Sounds jet exactly ...   Dec 19 2014, 02:25 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   The only published MPS calibrations are on Brad An...   Dec 19 2014, 03:05 PM
brant   I agree the factory setting are far from ideal rem...   Dec 19 2014, 03:51 PM
Philip W.   I agree the factory setting are far from ideal re...   Dec 19 2014, 09:23 PM
76-914   FWIW Phil, that one is for a 75-76 so may run a bi...   Dec 19 2014, 09:44 PM
76-914   Any news?   Dec 21 2014, 09:26 AM
Philip W.   Any news? Spent part of one day messing with it ...   Dec 21 2014, 12:12 PM
Philip W.   Any news? So I have not been able to try out the...   Dec 27 2014, 10:57 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   I wonder if this is related to the advance weights...   Dec 27 2014, 11:13 PM
Philip W.   No I've not done that.   Dec 28 2014, 12:13 AM
Philip W.   Is it possible for this one part, the temp sensor ...   Dec 28 2014, 01:54 PM
Philip W.   so yesterday i decided to try and figure out where...   Dec 29 2014, 08:20 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Interesting. Never heard of a D-Jet 914 that did ...   Dec 29 2014, 08:27 AM
r_towle   its the ambient air temp, and I have never had one...   Dec 29 2014, 08:29 AM
Philip W.   its the ambient air temp, and I have never had on...   Dec 29 2014, 09:49 AM
r_towle   if you still have an issue, I would go back to the...   Dec 29 2014, 10:59 AM
Dave_Darling   The intake air temp sensor doesn't contribute ...   Dec 29 2014, 03:26 PM
Larmo63   After reading this thread and screwing around with...   Dec 29 2014, 05:37 PM
BeatNavy   After reading this thread and screwing around wit...   Dec 29 2014, 05:44 PM
r_towle   After reading this thread and screwing around wit...   Dec 29 2014, 06:35 PM
Larmo63   Yes, engine is already built with Webers in mind. ...   Dec 29 2014, 10:41 PM
Dave_Darling   Should be fun! And if you already know Webers...   Dec 29 2014, 10:49 PM
Philip W.   Well back to the matter at hand.. Went to go drive...   Jan 3 2015, 05:10 PM
Philip W.   Put about 60 miles on it just 2 days ago. Was runn...   Jan 3 2015, 05:19 PM
Philip W.   Put about 60 miles on it just 2 days ago. Was runn...   Jan 3 2015, 05:19 PM
r_towle   Injector grounds? Distributor advance plate ground...   Jan 3 2015, 06:43 PM
Philip W.   Injector grounds? Distributor advance plate groun...   Jan 3 2015, 10:36 PM
rhodyguy   Remembered from long ago....I think Dave darling h...   Jan 4 2015, 09:27 AM
Philip W.   Remembered from long ago....I think Dave darling ...   Jan 4 2015, 05:58 PM
Dave_Darling   Nope, not I. --DD   Jan 4 2015, 11:40 AM
Philip W.   Last week end I went to try get workingrightthe ...   Jan 24 2015, 12:53 PM
mepstein   It's a snowbird car. Send it to FL for the win...   Jan 24 2015, 02:04 PM
76-914   Is the plug on the backside of the dizzy clicked i...   Jan 24 2015, 04:37 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Could it be an electrical connection? Harness iss...   Jan 24 2015, 08:15 PM
Philip W.   Could it be an electrical connection? Harness is...   Jan 24 2015, 08:56 PM
Philip W.   started this morning- so i drove it to work!(2...   Jan 26 2015, 01:40 PM
Philip W.   started this morning- so i drove it to work!(...   Feb 11 2015, 07:57 AM
cary   Did a quick read. I'd disconnect the cold sta...   Feb 11 2015, 08:23 AM
Philip W.   Did a quick read. I'd disconnect the cold st...   Feb 11 2015, 12:40 PM
Philip W.   this goes back a few months and i never posted aft...   Jun 24 2015, 01:26 PM


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