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post Dec 15 2014, 11:54 PM
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Im looking for suggestions on how to plumb the fuel lines for the PMO carbs. Where should the regulator be mounted?

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post Dec 16 2014, 01:04 AM
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post Dec 16 2014, 06:53 AM
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Doesn't really matter, but where ever you mount it make it easy to see the gauge, easy to get at the adjuster and not in the way for working on the engine. I've also seen it mounted on the back trunk firewall between the carbs.
You could take the gauge off and mount it to the PMO fuel bar.

I'd run your fuel lines in a loop like on FI systems.
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post Dec 16 2014, 09:21 AM
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In my current configuration, I have the regulator up front with the pump and a gauge in the back with the carbs.
I figured it would be just a little safer having 3 PSI fuel running to the back through the tunnel instead of 12 PSI.

But after using it this way, the fuel pressure is not very consistent.
So I plan on moving the regualtor to the back with the gauge & the splitter right before the carbs.
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post Dec 16 2014, 11:32 AM
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Two regulators - one in front reducing the pressure to about 12 psi. Second one in engine bay on firewall reducing pressure to 4 psi. This has served me well for about 10 years.

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post Dec 16 2014, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(slivel @ Dec 16 2014, 09:32 AM) *

Two regulators - one in front reducing the pressure to about 12 psi. Second one in engine bay on firewall reducing pressure to 4 psi. This has served me well for about 10 years.



Wow, you used a REAL pressure regulator not the BS PMO one.
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post Dec 16 2014, 01:16 PM
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Wow, you used a REAL pressure regulator not the BS PMO one.

I'm using a Malpassi fuel regulator on my build.
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post Dec 16 2014, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Dec 16 2014, 09:17 PM) *

Wow, you used a REAL pressure regulator not the BS PMO one.


Whats wrong with PMO regulators ? Are they not good ? I was just going to order one. Should I buy some other ? What's good ? Aeromotive ? At least they are expensive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Dec 16 2014, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Dec 16 2014, 09:17 PM) *

Wow, you used a REAL pressure regulator not the BS PMO one.


Whats wrong with PMO regulators ? Are they not good ? I was just going to order one. Should I buy some other ? What's good ? Aeromotive ? At least they are expensive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Ron must not like them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

The Malpassi fuel regulator I'm using is favored by a lot of weber shops (Pierce Manifolds, aircooled.net, UK speed shops, etc) and should be easy for you to find in Europe. They came stock on a few cars over there as well. Made in Italy.

They are real small, less than 3 inches.

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post Dec 16 2014, 02:45 PM
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The Malpassi fuel regulator I'm using is favored by a lot of weber shops (Pierce Manifolds, aircooled.net, UK speed shops, etc) and should be easy for you to find in Europe. They came stock on a few cars over there as well. Made in Italy.



Thanks Mark. Malpassi doesn´t have very good reputation here. Maybe because they are made in Italy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But, I have to say I had Malpassi in my ´63 Beetle with dual Dellortos and zero problems with fuel pressure.
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post Dec 16 2014, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(914Timo @ Dec 16 2014, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Dec 16 2014, 09:17 PM) *

Wow, you used a REAL pressure regulator not the BS PMO one.


Whats wrong with PMO regulators ? Are they not good ? I was just going to order one. Should I buy some other ? What's good ? Aeromotive ? At least they are expensive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


When you use a "safety collar"** to clamp down on a rubber hose and restrict fuel flow, it just seems mickey mouse to me. Why not use vise grips?

We used the Holley/Mr. Gasket fuel pressure regulator on the race cars and I bought them for street cars. They looked much like the ones in the picture.

**very similar to ones on the tensioners in a /6 engine to prevent total collapse.

And you are right ... I don't like them!
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post Dec 16 2014, 03:33 PM
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When you use a "safety collar"** to clamp down on a rubber hose and restrict fuel flow, it just seems mickey mouse to me. Why not use vise grips?

And you are right ... I don't like them!


Ok. Thanks. I agree. I am not big fan of rubber hoses and hose clamps too.

According PMOs site you can buy the regulator with AN-6 fittings.
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post Dec 16 2014, 03:47 PM
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When you use a "safety collar"** to clamp down on a rubber hose and restrict fuel flow, it just seems mickey mouse to me. Why not use vise grips?

And you are right ... I don't like them!


Ok. Thanks. I agree. I am not big fan of rubber hoses and hose clamps too.

According PMOs site you can buy the regulator with AN-6 fittings.


The one we installed on Glenn Sager's 3.0 conversion uses what I described above. If they have different ones I do not know. I'll add an image to this post in about 20 minutes.

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Installed on the back firewall, between the carbs.
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post Dec 16 2014, 04:31 PM
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That must be very early, the ones I see now don't look like that. They have a big chunky body with a brass adjustment screw and lock nut like in the first pic of the thread.
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post Dec 16 2014, 04:48 PM
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Or...use a fuel pump that pumps at 3-4 psi and avoid a high pressure fuel system and regulator.
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Or...use a fuel pump that pumps at 3-4 psi and avoid a high pressure fuel system and regulator.

I don't know of a single pump that I would trust to do that.
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Or...use a fuel pump that pumps at 3-4 psi and avoid a high pressure fuel system and regulator.


We did that first. Mounted in the front, it wouldn't produce enough pressure to move the gauge needle. Switched it to a single in / single out DJet pump and now we have appropriate pressure at the carbs.

No kinked lines, SS supply and return.

Want a 3.5 psig pump that was run for a total of 15 minutes?
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post Dec 16 2014, 05:27 PM
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http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetail...roductCode=3193

Running it on my 3.0L...ran it for 5 years on my /4. Tad low on the pressure at 3 PSI (v.s. 3.5) but works great! Hell I even used my backup pump this weekend to pump out my generator into my car for fresh fuel.
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post Dec 16 2014, 06:53 PM
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I use the same one. I'd love to start data logging that with my LM-1.
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here's the instructions with in and out layout



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