New item to work on. Guys with carbs what do you think?, phenolic spacers |
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New item to work on. Guys with carbs what do you think?, phenolic spacers |
Mikey914 |
Dec 17 2014, 04:32 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,667 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Looking at making up some of these. These are intended to help insulate the carbs from the engine further at the carb base. Who's interested?
These were available at one time for $15 each. I should be able to do a set of 4 for $24, if i can get some quantity. Figured I'd see how much interest is out there. Attached image(s) |
r_towle |
Dec 17 2014, 06:44 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Just curious.
I have used just the head-->>manifold phenolic spacer and I have never had any heat issues on the manifolds or carbs. Sure, there is some heat from the studs, but never enough to make a big difference. Also, with these added gaskets, you are moving the throttle plate further away from the valve which does have a negative result. So, why add these? Rich |
bdstone914 |
Dec 19 2014, 08:24 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,521 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Just curious. I have used just the head-->>manifold phenolic spacer and I have never had any heat issues on the manifolds or carbs. Sure, there is some heat from the studs, but never enough to make a big difference. Also, with these added gaskets, you are moving the throttle plate further away from the valve which does have a negative result. So, why add these? Rich Rich What is the negative result and how is it any different than adding tall manifolds that are better for top end? Do you really think a few mm spacing will make a difference? Bruce |
r_towle |
Dec 20 2014, 08:18 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Just curious. I have used just the head-->>manifold phenolic spacer and I have never had any heat issues on the manifolds or carbs. Sure, there is some heat from the studs, but never enough to make a big difference. Also, with these added gaskets, you are moving the throttle plate further away from the valve which does have a negative result. So, why add these? Rich Rich What is the negative result and how is it any different than adding tall manifolds that are better for top end? Do you really think a few mm spacing will make a difference? Bruce You want the throttle plate as close to the valve as you can get it. Tall manifolds do not do that. Adding a spacer moves it away. I do not have data at my fingertips, but it's fairly common knowledge when tuning a car on a dyno. I believe Chris makes, or did make short manifolds from the commonly available tall ones. There is also a difference with tall velocity stacks. In my experience, the farther the throttle plate is away from the valve, the higher up in the RPM range your power band will be. For autocross, torque is king, so short everything, manifolds and ventures. I swapped tall and short manifolds on the same car. Short ones have a quicker throttle response, lower power band, more torque sooner...all for autocross. as Jake says, it's all in the combo, so if you like high end revving, you can build your transmission to match your intake flow dynamics and tall parts might work for you in yr specific application, and temperature. Rich |
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