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> Rocker Panel Rivetts, Are they available
stevegm
post Dec 19 2014, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Dec 19 2014, 03:05 PM) *

FYI: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
These are the real deal NOS CW rivets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
I might have a few spares if your know the CW hand shake. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Dec 19 2014, 04:31 PM
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Interesting. They should have included the razor blade to cut them off, and ospho for the rust. :-)

White for early cars, huh? So, I guess I need white ones.
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post Dec 19 2014, 04:37 PM
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Sierra Madre has the white ones:

http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/store...detail&p=59

I have them, but haven't installed them yet...

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post Dec 19 2014, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(siverson @ Dec 19 2014, 05:37 PM) *

Sierra Madre has the white ones:

http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/store...detail&p=59

I have them, but haven't installed them yet...

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Those are clear.
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post Dec 19 2014, 05:01 PM
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Are you sure those aren't the ones for the thresholds?
They look like the ones in include with them.
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post Dec 19 2014, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Dec 19 2014, 05:24 PM) *

I'm pretty sure that Porsche still sells the clear plastic ones in the pic in Tom's post #18 above, since they're also used on 911/912/930's which they tend to support better than 914-only parts.

If so, then your local dealer can get them, & PCA members should get a discount there - as well as GPR, Eklers/Automotion/PP, Stoddars, TC's Garage, Sierra Madre Collection, etc. who resell the genuine Porsche parts can also get them & may be able to offer a better price.

70-73 914s originally came with white plastic, then 74 or 75 switched to black plastic.

Plastic rivets were originally specified because you can cut them off with a razor blade to do the rockers inspection & clean-out on 914s & 911/912/930's, & were relatively inexpensive to to replace on reinstall, although many P+A dealers still used metal rivets! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Metal rivets need to be drilled out to remove, which is a royal PITA.

SS or any screws can back out, but are an expedient alternative. I've used SS screws for the belly pans' access panels on our vintage `60 Avion Travel Trailer (similar to Airstream), & they are constantly backing out with the road vibrations.

So I'd suggest a tiny dab of blue Locktite on each screw on the rockers too, even if there is far less vibration there.

Other brands of plastic or nylon rivets would work too, if they're the right size & type, as in the link at Dave's post #4 - & he's know having done that beautiful -6 resto & many others. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

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Are we sure that 70-73 914s had white rivets holding the rocker covers on? And '74 and '75 switched to black? It seems like I took a set off of an early car (that were original) that were black.
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post Dec 19 2014, 05:54 PM
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The term tends to be over-used, but it "blows my mind" to have a vendor reading a forum that can turn around a request for a new item in 30 minutes and have it available for shipping...

Nicely done.
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post Dec 19 2014, 07:28 PM
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Thanks for the help everyone. I bought 2 sets from Mark.
I removed my rockers today with no trouble at all. Drilling out the original aluminum rivets was a breeze. The rockers had never been off the car. The great news is that there is absolutely no rust behind the rockers and the longs and jack points are perfect.
The bad news is that I need to shovel all the dirt out of the garage.
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post Dec 19 2014, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(jack20 @ Dec 19 2014, 08:28 PM) *

Thanks for the help everyone. I bought 2 sets from Mark.
I removed my rockers today with no trouble at all. Drilling out the original aluminum rivets was a breeze. The rockers had never been off the car. The great news is that there is absolutely no rust behind the rockers and the longs and jack points are perfect.
The bad news is that I need to shovel all the dirt out of the garage.



You got very lucky. There is almost always some rust right around the jack posts from dirt build up.
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post Dec 19 2014, 08:36 PM
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I would never rivet anything shut that collects dirt and creates a rust trap. Unless you are a hard core concourse weenie, use screws.
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post Dec 19 2014, 08:44 PM
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How about those rubber spacers? McMaster Carr has something close but the OD is only 13mm


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post Dec 19 2014, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(Harpo @ Dec 19 2014, 06:44 PM) *

How about those rubber spacers? Anyone got a source?

Thanks

David


Local hardware store.
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post Dec 19 2014, 09:05 PM
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I found some PVC that has similar OD and ID dimensions that I can just cut to length.

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post Dec 19 2014, 09:11 PM
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Local hardware store, plumbing isle
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post Dec 19 2014, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(Rand @ Dec 19 2014, 06:36 PM) *

I would never rivet anything shut that collects dirt and creates a rust trap. Unless you are a hard core concourse weenie, use screws.

Buy a rivet gun.... It will change your life.... for the better! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
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post Dec 19 2014, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(Rand @ Dec 19 2014, 06:36 PM) *

I would never rivet anything shut that collects dirt and creates a rust trap. Unless you are a hard core concourse weenie, use screws.

I would argue that the rivets can easily be drilled out, and the screw don't look to good. Just get a 2nd set for next time, throw them in the parts stash.
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Dec 19 2014, 03:54 PM) *

The term tends to be over-used, but it "blows my mind" to have a vendor reading a forum that can turn around a request for a new item in 30 minutes and have it available for shipping...

Nicely done.

Helps if I already have it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 20 2014, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Dec 19 2014, 03:05 PM) *

FYI: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
These are the real deal NOS CW rivets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
I might have a few spares if your know the CW hand shake. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
Tom



I checked my stash and have questions for the experts?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

I am not certain what year's get what color??
I think early years should be white, not clear???
I agree my NOS small black rivets are correct for my 1974 including later years.
BTW: I struggled putting them in and have a few broken ones (see photo). I remember making up a small dia. tube and pushing the pin in with a smaller inside dia. rod when installing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) Many cuss words were spoken. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
Here's my inventory of rivets.......
(19) small NOS Black rivets. (promised a set to 71-Six)
(11) small clear/white rivets. (spares)
(8) large NOS Black rivets from the Porsche dealer. Not sure for what model Porsche?
(6) & (3) small NOS Black rivets. (spares)
See Photo's.
Anyone knowing the CW hand shake will get free ones from Santa Clause & Merry Christmas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif)
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Were the plastic rivets used on the rocker panels? I have not seen that before. I have seen them used on the thresholds. I did see the 2 different sizes, so maybe, but it seams that these would not be ideal for the rocker panels.

Curious now.

Also I have had the rivets made up for the thresholds I make as it helps to sell them. Yes they are a pain, that's why a include a few extras.

If they are these plastic rivets Porsche was not inexpensive for the thresholds when available. It would be easy to have some of these made up too. If they are correct.


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QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Dec 20 2014, 11:44 AM) *

Were the plastic rivets used on the rocker panels? I have not seen that before. I have seen them used on the thresholds. I did see the 2 different sizes, so maybe, but it seams that these would not be ideal for the rocker panels.

Curious now.

Also I have had the rivets made up for the thresholds I make as it helps to sell them. Yes they are a pain, that's why a include a few extras.

If they are these plastic rivets Porsche was not inexpensive for the thresholds when available. It would be easy to have some of these made up too. If they are correct.


Mike,
If you agree, letme know?
I'll send you one of each size/color for your files as reference material.
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