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> Original 6's for sale, - I have my doubts
mepstein
post Dec 27 2014, 03:58 PM
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If I had a trashed 6 and an early 4 body. I could have it done and it would be invisible to all but a few.

And those few would have to look REALLY hard. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I didn't say it couldn't be done, but you're talking a boatload of work & after all that labor you have to wonder if you'd break even, much less make a profit. It's expensive enough to fix a rustbucket, & finding all the right 6 parts is going to cost you plenty more on top of all the other work.

Your not quite getting me. Start out with a rusty or bent orig 6. Switch all the parts and the unique sheet metal bits. I know it's done. I wonder how often.
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post Dec 27 2014, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 27 2014, 01:58 PM) *
I wonder how often.

More often than you think, i know of quite a few. For some, i even have before and after pictures.
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post Dec 27 2014, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 27 2014, 04:58 PM) *

Your not quite getting me. Start out with a rusty or bent orig 6. Switch all the parts and the unique sheet metal bits. I know it's done. I wonder how often.

I get ya, but so much work would have to exceed the value of the car, no? Cutting out the stamped VIN & chassis numbers, & then welding them into the 4, w/out damaging them, grinding down the weld seams... you could do a fabulous job, but after all that work could you make a profit? After all that work, would you want to sell her? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 27 2014, 04:13 PM
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I'm sure, if I were to place a "for sale" ad for my car, I'd generate some
skepticism.. I'd advertise it as a
2 owner matching number car, documentation of my purchase from local Porsche Dealer in 1973.
Original engine put on a shelf in 1977. Parked 1988 and sitting since. 56,000 miles.

Car is sitting in a Body Shop now, and should be painted in the next week. I dropped it off there on Oct. 15th
and in the 41 years I've owned it, this is the longest it has been out of my sight and not in my possession.

I'm sure there are more than a few more like mine.. Sitting, waiting for the timing and finances to come together ...



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post Dec 27 2014, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Dec 27 2014, 05:06 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 27 2014, 04:58 PM) *

Your not quite getting me. Start out with a rusty or bent orig 6. Switch all the parts and the unique sheet metal bits. I know it's done. I wonder how often.

I get ya, but so much work would have to exceed the value of the car, no? Cutting out the stamped VIN & chassis numbers, & then welding them into the 4, w/out damaging them, grinding down the weld seams... you could do a fabulous job, but after all that work could you make a profit? After all that work, would you want to sell her? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

That would cost a couple hundred dollars-1k to make it perfect.
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post Dec 27 2014, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 27 2014, 05:27 PM) *

That would cost a couple hundred dollars-1k to make it perfect.

Well, w/ what you've posted & Andy posted I guess I'm wrong & you could make a profit doing it then, and it is done. However it's still so much work I'd want to keep it for myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 27 2014, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Dec 27 2014, 05:34 PM) *

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That would cost a couple hundred dollars-1k to make it perfect.

Well, w/ what you've posted & Andy posted I guess I'm wrong & you could make a profit doing it then, and it is done. However it's still so much work I'd want to keep it for myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

And by the way, full disclosure, my six conversion car "Mepstein build thread" is a vin switch. The shop that built it used an early body and a 74 vin. I don't know why.
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post Dec 27 2014, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 27 2014, 06:33 PM) *

And by the way, full disclosure, my six conversion car "Mepstein build thread" is a vin switch. The shop that built it used an early body and a 74 vin. I don't know why.

Odd. Why use a 74 VIN on a six conversion? I can understand the early body, (not much difference), but a 74 VIN switch? I can understand your bewilderment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Dec 27 2014, 06:10 PM
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And by the way, full disclosure, my six conversion car "Mepstein build thread" is a vin switch. The shop that built it used an early body and a 74 vin. I don't know why.

Odd. Why use a 74 VIN on a six conversion? I can understand the early body, (not much difference), but a 74 VIN switch? I can understand your bewilderment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

It was not a conversion car until recently. It was sold to me in 1984 as a restored and modified '74.
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post Dec 27 2014, 06:16 PM
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BTW - my thread is not directed to any specific seller or 6 owner. I'm just curious to what other 914 owners think about this.
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post Dec 27 2014, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 27 2014, 07:10 PM) *

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And by the way, full disclosure, my six conversion car "Mepstein build thread" is a vin switch. The shop that built it used an early body and a 74 vin. I don't know why.

Odd. Why use a 74 VIN on a six conversion? I can understand the early body, (not much difference), but a 74 VIN switch? I can understand your bewilderment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

It was not a conversion car until recently. It was sold to me in 1984 as a restored and modified '74.



I saw that car at Scotty's. It's gonna be very nice when it is done. They are doing it right all the way.
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post Dec 27 2014, 06:27 PM
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Uhhhh, my comment was a joke……..
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post Dec 27 2014, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Dec 27 2014, 07:27 PM) *

Uhhhh, my comment was a joke……..

Ok, I'll shut up now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 27 2014, 08:23 PM
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All you need is a rusted out 6, a good '70 or '71 chassis, and the skill that forty members here have. It's not too tough.
Then you sell the car for three times (or five times) what you can get for the 4 cyl.
All that money !
Then the proud new owner bumps into one of the other 39 experts. (who might know a bit more than you)
Then you're bent over a sink in the state slammer.
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post Dec 27 2014, 10:03 PM
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Building up a car from a scrapped out rusted six happens, and will continue to happen as the price goes up.
It still will not increase the overall number of sixes on the market because there are only a certain number of VIN number available.

Sure it can be done, the 356 market builds whole cars around the vin plate.....not a big deal.

Now, go find a real six with the right pieces and have fun.
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post Dec 27 2014, 10:42 PM
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Those predisposed to fraud will do what ever they do to take advantage of others and game the system. Some get caught and it costs them quite a bit and some even go to jail/prison.

Others choose to do the right thing despite the real costs of restoring one of these rare cars.
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post Dec 28 2014, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Dec 27 2014, 02:37 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 27 2014, 04:20 PM) *

If I had a trashed 6 and an early 4 body. I could have it done and it would be invisible to all but a few.

And those few would have to look REALLY hard. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I didn't say it couldn't be done, but you're talking a boatload of work & after all that labor you have to wonder if you'd break even, much less make a profit. It's expensive enough to fix a rustbucket, & finding all the right 6 parts is going to cost you plenty more on top of all the other work. Oh yea, I forgot the windshield VIN plate before.

When I bought my-6 the first I thought was that the numbers on the A pillar was a fake plate it looked hand made. I know I can do that. It's just a matter of getting the correct faunt.
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post Dec 28 2014, 04:22 AM
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the infamous 915 sounds like a bit of counter fit art.what a bunch of snobs.On topic though, really just because you are looking for the 914-6 psychologically makes more of them out there. like just because that's what your looking for.If you know what I mean?
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post Dec 28 2014, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 26 2014, 09:40 PM) *

Does anyone but me feel like there are more original 6's than is expected. Rust and crashes must have taken out quite a few over the years. I have no proof, just a feeling...


Not really. Until recently, they weren't worth a lot. They have always been available, sometimes they come in waves. In 2007, I bought 4 of them.
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QUOTE(funk @ Dec 28 2014, 05:22 AM) *

the infamous 915 sounds like a bit of counter fit art.what a bunch of snobs.On topic though, really just because you are looking for the 914-6 psychologically makes more of them out there. like just because that's what your looking for.If you know what I mean?

What? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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