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> Throttle Body and TPS and MegaSquirt, questions ...
SirAndy
post Feb 4 2005, 07:16 PM
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sooo, i just went and got myself a stock 2.0L plenum with stock throttle body and TPS from EASY.
while i was cleaning the stuff i noticed that the TPS didn't have *any* gunk on it, it fact it looked shiny new. so i pop the plastic cover and low & behold it looks brand spanking new!
no wear on the sliders at all ...

so i'm thinking, can i use the stock 2.0L TPS with my MegaSquirt brain or do i need to go to a aftermarket TPS ???

also, when i took the plastic cover off 2 little rubber spacers (triangle shaped) fell out. i can only see 4 spaces where they might go, but which ones is it?
top or bottom?

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post Feb 4 2005, 07:24 PM
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andy there is someone who did the MS on a type 4, well they used a suby tps, i dont know why but i think it has to do with ohms of the stock tps. if you need i can go get a reading from the one in my car ( suby 914 )
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post Feb 4 2005, 07:32 PM
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You can pretty much use anything under the sun with megasquirt. Guys are using AC delco sensors, bosche sensors, etc...In my research for my MS project, I ran across all kinds of different stuff.

Check this site out:

http://www.dune-buggy.com/turbo/index.htm

and this one:

http://www.megasquirt.info/

This one too:

http://bellsouthpwp2.net/s/_/s_moseley/meg...gasquirt/msgui/

Here is my MS thread:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...f=2&t=23859&hl=

Picture is of my setup as it is now. How far along are you?

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post Feb 4 2005, 07:37 PM
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Big no on the stock TPS.

The stocker is basically like a switch, where a modern TPS is more of a rheostat.
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post Feb 4 2005, 07:38 PM
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a new tps uses a variable resistor right? the stock tps is just like a multipoint switch. the new one would be way more accurate. i'm sure someone has something alot more smarter than that to say. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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post Feb 4 2005, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (balthazar @ Feb 4 2005, 05:32 PM)

Picture is of my setup as it is now.

wow, nice setup! looks professional. what did you yank the TB off of?
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post Feb 4 2005, 07:44 PM
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i'd buy that stocker from you. i was gonna buy a new one shortly...it reads coninuity and infinity in ohms, no progressive sweep like a std tps would
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post Feb 4 2005, 07:49 PM
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Proper term is a potentiometer type TPS (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Feb 4 2005, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (nickg @ Feb 4 2005, 05:44 PM)
i'd buy that stocker from you. i was gonna buy a new one shortly...it reads coninuity and infinity in ohms, no progressive sweep like a std tps would

ok, that makes sense ...

i sell you the TPS, i have no idea what they go for. lemmy look around real quick ...
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PS: thanks for the links and stuff guys ...
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post Feb 4 2005, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (balthazar @ Feb 4 2005, 05:32 PM)
How far along are you?

i'm having bigger runners and expanded plenum fabbed as we speak ...

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post Feb 4 2005, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Feb 4 2005, 05:52 PM)
lemmy look around real quick ...

$128.75 from pelican parts (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

i payed $40 for the whole crap-o-la, so you can have the TPS for $20 plus shipping ...
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post Feb 4 2005, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (Mark Henry @ Feb 4 2005, 05:49 PM)
Proper term is a potentiometer type TPS (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

alright, so mueller says he used a aftermarket TPS on the stock 2.0 throttle body that fit the D-shaped shaft.
but he can't remember what brand it was ...

anybody here know which one he's talking about ???
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post Feb 4 2005, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (mattillac @ Feb 4 2005, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE (balthazar @ Feb 4 2005, 05:32 PM)

Picture is of my setup as it is now.

wow, nice setup! looks professional. what did you yank the TB off of?

Thanks for the digs! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) Here are some pix of the progress.

On another note, I have a EET from ITT Tech, and have been working in the electronics fields for 10 yrs now. I would be willing to build these kits for a small fee if anyone is interested. I can even hook it up to my laptop and pre- tune it for stock or?


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post Feb 4 2005, 08:33 PM
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Butterfly housing...


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post Feb 4 2005, 08:35 PM
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One more...sory for the hijack... I am (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)


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post Feb 4 2005, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (balthazar @ Feb 4 2005, 06:35 PM)
One more...sory for the hijack... I am (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

answer me! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

what TPS did you use ???
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QUOTE (mattillac @ Feb 4 2005, 05:40 PM)
what did you yank the TB off of?

The TB is from a 1.7l. The engine in my car is a 1.7l...I thought I could use the stock TPS, but I guess not...gotta do more research....grrrrr

This is the exaust I will use(pic of one I will copy)...muhahaha (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

Everyone is up in arms about the sleezy avatars...I tell you, this is straight up PORN to me!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drooley.gif)


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post Feb 4 2005, 08:49 PM
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alright, i guess i have to do it all by myself ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

here's a link to a older thread about different types of TPSs to use with the MS system ...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...2&t=6171&hl=tps
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Feb 4 2005, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE (Mark Henry @ Feb 4 2005, 05:49 PM)
Proper term is a potentiometer type TPS  ;)

alright, so mueller says he used a aftermarket TPS on the stock 2.0 throttle body that fit the D-shaped shaft.
but he can't remember what brand it was ...

anybody here know which one he's talking about ???
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You can get one from SDS but they're spendy at $75.

If I remember right the 2.0 TB turns opposite (I think CCW) from most TB's

You can see the "D" shaft on my install thread here...BTW that's a hacked up stock TPS that the new one is mounted on.
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ok, found one (thanks benno! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wavey.gif) ) ...

d-shaped shaft cutout plus right rotation.
http://www.vishay.com/product?docid=57002&query=971

they even have a few dealers in the bay area.
time for a little roadtrip ...
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