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morgan_harwell
post Feb 13 2015, 09:49 AM
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Howdy,

I would like to place my order in the queue.

Question about the Front Euro LEDs.
Are the Amber LEDs lit (on) when the TurnSignal is not engaged?

Front:
#2, Euro non-blanking LED

Rear:
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#3, Amber TurnSignal LED

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Front bucket seals: $12.50
Rear housing seals: $16.00
Rear lens beads: $5.00

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post Feb 13 2015, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Feb 13 2015, 03:56 AM) *

Are you going to glue the boards into the bulb bases?


Yes. I fill the bases with epoxy then install the handle. The epoxy locks the wires in place so they won't work loose from the base. The handles are in rock solid. So installation can be done with a pair of pliers or your fingers. Should make installation very easy.


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post Feb 13 2015, 05:41 PM
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We had a bit of a hangup on the first rear LED boards. The assembly was done incorrectly on the first 18 boards. The boards cannot be reworked. Just thrown in the garbage. They are trashed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

So there will be a delay on the rear boards until we make more. I will PM those for whom these boards were being built.

The fronts are coming along fine. Will be shipping out the first sets of fronts this week.
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post Feb 14 2015, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 13 2015, 02:40 PM) *

QUOTE(euro911 @ Feb 13 2015, 03:56 AM) *

Are you going to glue the boards into the bulb bases?


Yes. I fill the bases with epoxy then install the handle. The epoxy locks the wires in place so they won't work loose from the base. The handles are in rock solid. So installation can be done with a pair of pliers or your fingers. Should make installation very easy.


That will work ..................
It doesn't need to be very tall. Just enough to grab with fingers or pliers.
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post Feb 14 2015, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(cary @ Feb 14 2015, 01:18 AM) *

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 13 2015, 02:40 PM) *

QUOTE(euro911 @ Feb 13 2015, 03:56 AM) *

Are you going to glue the boards into the bulb bases?


Yes. I fill the bases with epoxy then install the handle. The epoxy locks the wires in place so they won't work loose from the base. The handles are in rock solid. So installation can be done with a pair of pliers or your fingers. Should make installation very easy.


That will work ..................
It doesn't need to be very tall. Just enough to grab with fingers or pliers.


The size was chosen from a long thin board we had laying around at work that I chopped up to make the handles. The board was about 1 inch wide.
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post Feb 23 2015, 10:10 PM
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My new front LED boards have arrived. A beautiful thing ...............
They slipped right in. I already had new 914 Rubber seals. They had compressed into their new shape. So it was a little tight.

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post Feb 23 2015, 10:15 PM
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Lights, camera and action.

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post Feb 23 2015, 10:48 PM
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Looks good Cary. Are you using the stock 914 flasher or EP36 or other?

A couple of notes:

1) Great video. So glad to see the LEDs working with your flasher. Keep in mind that the LEDs are pointed directly towards the front and rear of the vehicle to maximizes the intensity of the LEDs towards the other vehicles on the road.

2) The early stock 914 flasher (with L & R dash indicators) seems to work fine if the dash indicators are rewired so the common wire normally from the K lug on the flasher are connected to ground. This little bit of resistive load seems to cause the flasher to flash normally with LEDs front and rear. My 914 is wired this way and the flasher will flash normally even with both front and rear lights removed. Another 914World member with LEDs front and rear got his early flasher to work only after rewiring the dash indicators.

3) I'm adding a 1k ohm resistor across the turnsignal wires on the front and rear boards to add at least a little bit of resistive signature to help flashers see the LED loads. Not sure how much this helps but it's easy to do.

4) Some folks had observed the tight intensity profile of the LEDs. We had been using 15 degree LEDs. For the amber turnsignals, we're now using 30 degree LEDs. The head-on intensity is less but the light pattern is wider. The red LEDs are only available in quantity in the 15 degree packages so we'll continue with the 15 degree red LEDs.
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post Feb 23 2015, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(morgan_harwell @ Feb 13 2015, 10:49 AM) *

Howdy,

I would like to place my order in the queue.

Question about the Front Euro LEDs.
Are the Amber LEDs lit (on) when the TurnSignal is not engaged?

Front:
#2, Euro non-blanking LED

Rear:
#1, Red Brake LED
#3, Amber TurnSignal LED

Seals:
Front bucket seals: $12.50
Rear housing seals: $16.00
Rear lens beads: $5.00

Thanks,
--Moe--


PM sent on the seals.

On the Euro versions with the white LEDS, the amber LEDs are currently not gently lit with the running lights. I've opted not to do this for fear the flasher would not work since the flasher would see no load below about 7V and may not flash. I'd be willing to try it for you if you're willing to test it out.

This could also be done on the rear US red turnsignals. This would provide the 914 with a wider running light profile. One 914world member had issues getting his flasher to flash with the turnsignal LEDs gently lit with the running lights on.
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post Feb 24 2015, 07:31 AM
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I have both the EP36 flasher and have wired both the flasher lamps to the common.
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Spoke- I like the idea of having the lights gently lit with the running lights - especially in the rear where it gives a wider profile. Great idea.
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post Feb 24 2015, 08:46 AM
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[QUOTE] Spoke- I like the idea of having the lights gently lit with the running lights - especially in the rear where it gives a wider profile. Great idea. [QUOTE]

Concur. It's all about visibility.
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Spoke- I like the idea of having the lights gently lit with the running lights - especially in the rear where it gives a wider profile. Great idea.

Concur. It's all about visibility.


Rob,

I can make this change to your boards. Let me know.

As soon as someone requests this function (amber lights on gently with white running lights on) I will take a video of it in action.
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 25 2015, 05:41 AM) *

QUOTE(GermermanCarGuy @ Feb 24 2015, 09:46 AM) *

Spoke- I like the idea of having the lights gently lit with the running lights - especially in the rear where it gives a wider profile. Great idea.

Concur. It's all about visibility.


Rob,

I can make this change to your boards. Let me know.

As soon as someone requests this function (amber lights on gently with white running lights on) I will take a video of it in action.


Rears only, please. I'll be okay with the fronts as is.

Thanks again.
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post Feb 25 2015, 10:52 AM
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>On the Euro versions with the white LEDS, the amber LEDs are currently not gently lit with the running lights. I've opted not to do this for fear the flasher would not work since the flasher would see no load below about 7V and may not flash. I'd be willing to try it for you if you're willing to test it out.

>As soon as someone requests this function (amber lights on gently with white running lights on) I will take a video of it in action.

If you can do this easily, I am interested, even if it costs me an extra $10.

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post Feb 25 2015, 10:29 PM
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Hi Mr. Wizard,

Front pair only, Option 3,

Euro Version-w/Blanking:

$140.00 front euro kit
$ 12.50 (front bucket seals)
$ 16.00 (rear housing seals)
$ 5.00 (rear lens beads)
$ 10.00 shipping

$183.50 Total

Thanks!

Watch this space . . . .

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post Feb 27 2015, 05:10 PM
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Spoke, cant wait to get mine! No rush, just want you to know that I am really looking forward to your product!

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post Mar 1 2015, 08:36 AM
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I am interested in a full set of the US version (front and back). I'm unclear if you are able to provide the running lights gently on or not but would like this option if it is available.

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post Mar 5 2015, 01:03 PM
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Got my fronts and rear brakes installed this morning. What a difference! Absolutely a must for safety.
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post Mar 5 2015, 10:16 PM
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Are you open to any trades for a few complete sets??
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