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> Variations of the VW Cabin / Dome Light
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post Feb 11 2015, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE(dlkawashima @ Feb 10 2015, 09:06 PM) *

No, it's not funny when someone buys a dome light for $35 and then turns around and sells it for $150 plus. That's just ripping off your fellow 914 World member and laughing all the way to the bank. Not saying it's you but I know it's been done.

You want to know where you can get one? Bug swap meets, TheSamba, bug shops that sell used stuff. Example:

https://www.bugcity.com/shop/shop.htm?pquery=dome+light
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post Feb 11 2015, 12:05 PM
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Dave (dlkawashima),
You did a very nice job restoring the silver edge to the light. It is truly enjoyable to see individuals looking for ways to restore these old parts.
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post Feb 11 2015, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Feb 10 2015, 09:54 PM) *

This photo breaks my heart. Like seeing an abused child.

How many more milliseconds would it have taken someone to simply pull the disconnects off the light? But no...they had to cut wires...


I guess they wanted to make sure they knew how to re-connect in their car, right?.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Feb 11 2015, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Feb 11 2015, 01:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Feb 10 2015, 09:54 PM) *

This photo breaks my heart. Like seeing an abused child.

How many more milliseconds would it have taken someone to simply pull the disconnects off the light? But no...they had to cut wires...


I guess they wanted to make sure they knew how to re-connect in their car, right?.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


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I didn't cut the wires, I am just trying to glue it together so I can sell it for big bucks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) I am open for someone to restore it & we split the profits. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Feb 17 2015, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(dlkawashima @ Feb 10 2015, 12:21 PM) *

Yeah, there's very little to debate. It's well known that the dome light used on the 914 was used first on VW Bugs.

The only thing I question is if the Saturnus dome light was ever installed at the factory. While there is evidence the Saturnus was installed on Yugoslavian Bugs, I've seen no evidence of it ever being factory installed on 914s.

Steve Gaglione once said over in the Originality and History sub-forum that the Sidler was installed on the very earliest of 914s coming off the assembly line, and then white switch Hellas for the rest of the production. So if you're looking for the correct dome light and have anything other than a very, very early (as in 1969 build date) 914, get a white switch Hella.

Here's another short thread about my search for the name of the "S" dome light:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...=2&t=183993

Here's a better look at the three "correct" dome lights (white switch with chrome edge). Saturnus - Sidler - Hella. Click image to supersize. Oh, and my Sidler dome light, while solid, had almost no "chrome" left on its edge. I used Spaz Stix Ultimate Mirror Chrome to restore the finish.



I found the Spaz Stix Ultimate Mirror chrome paint at Amazon, but it says it is meant for airbrush, stupid question, I dont have an airbrush, can I use a paint brush and paint it on.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Mirror-Chro...rror+Chrome#Ask

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post Feb 17 2015, 09:22 PM
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Use the paint on some other piece of plastic and see how it turns out. I tried model paint and it was worthless.
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post Feb 17 2015, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Feb 10 2015, 07:54 PM) *
This photo breaks my heart. Like seeing an abused child.

How many more milliseconds would it have taken someone to simply pull the disconnects off the light? But no...they had to cut wires...

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I really hope that came from a parts car ...
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post Feb 17 2015, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(porsche913b_sp @ Feb 17 2015, 06:43 PM) *

I found the Spaz Stix Ultimate Mirror chrome paint at Amazon, but it says it is meant for airbrush, stupid question, I dont have an airbrush, can I use a paint brush and paint it on.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Mirror-Chro...rror+Chrome#Ask

Thanks in advance.

No, I wouldn't do that ... just get the aerosol spray if you don't have an air brush. I recommend spraying several very light coats rather than one big, heavy coat.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Mirror-Chro...t/dp/B0015H1FGA

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On the light you re-silvered, did you remove the old silver or paint over it?
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post Feb 17 2015, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(dlkawashima @ Feb 17 2015, 09:36 PM) *

QUOTE(porsche913b_sp @ Feb 17 2015, 06:43 PM) *

I found the Spaz Stix Ultimate Mirror chrome paint at Amazon, but it says it is meant for airbrush, stupid question, I dont have an airbrush, can I use a paint brush and paint it on.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Mirror-Chro...rror+Chrome#Ask

Thanks in advance.

No, I wouldn't do that ... just get the aerosol spray if you don't have an air brush. I recommend spraying several very light coats rather than one big, heavy coat.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Mirror-Chro...t/dp/B0015H1FGA

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Gotcha, good thing I ask, Thanks
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post Feb 17 2015, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(tweet @ Feb 17 2015, 08:42 PM) *

On the light you re-silvered, did you remove the old silver or paint over it?

In a perfect world you would want to start with a clean surface, which I know isn't always possible. My Sidler was a filthy mess when I got it. It looked like it went through the Baja 1000 or maybe a baby Osprey had decided to build a nest in it. So I used a toothbrush and some dish soap to clean it. What silver was there kinda flaked off, but not entirely.

This is a Hella dome light that was pretty good. I just sprayed over what was already there. It's not flawless by any stretch but it's hard to tell from the picture ... close enough for government work as they say.

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Hella good info in this thread, hella cool to share that link to buy, and definitely sparking a light in my dome about my next interior resto project! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 3 2018, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Feb 10 2015, 08:32 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Feb 10 2015, 06:12 PM) *

This is really good info on the dome lights! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

.... a couple of additional clarifications though, & forgive me if they were covered above, but I didn't see them ....

Actually, the Hella made for VW-Porsche 914 square white button/"chrome" edge ones made during the run for the 914's from 1969-1976 would have said -

"Made in West Germany" - since the wall didn't fall until `88 & German reunification after that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

IIRC, it was in the early 1980's when the Porsche dealerships started selling the square black button version only for replacements. For functionality those sold 3-pole by any vW or Porsche supplier today works fine.

Being fragile plastic, subject to damage from elbows/etc. mounted on the backpad + heat damage from too strong/hot of a lamp/bulb - these were replaced more often than almost any other part on the 914 (other than regular maintenance & wear items).

Also to clarify for the newbies, the "chrome" edge is actually a silver/chrome paint applied to the underside of the plastic lens edge - not a separate chrome bezel - just so nobody goes crazy hunting for that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Good review Tom,
Here's a photo front & rear of an real one for the record. I have one broken in half I am trying to glue together, grrrrrr. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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Thanks for this photo - it helped me reconnect my light the correct way. Now the light works correctly in all three modes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 11 2018, 08:22 PM
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I ran across another example. Marked "EOSA", "DOT", "Hecho en Mexico", and VW logo. Has three positions and split terminals.

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