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| campbellcj |
 Feb 18 2015, 11:16 PM
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I can't Re Member  Group: Members Posts: 4,542 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California 
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I was surprised at how many truck drivers there are. Per a recent NPR article, it is the #1 most common job in many states of the US. That implies the demand is there, but supply is plentiful --> downward wage pressure and as few perks and comforts as they can legally get away with.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2015/02/05/...-in-every-state |
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Feb 18 2015, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Feb 18 2015, 09:14 PM)  In my life I've never been depressed by a place and time as much as walking in to a truck stop outside Albuquerque at about 3AM. Lonely scattered truckers smoking cigarettes, drinking coffee and staring at the counters, not speaking a word to anyone. Waitresses tired and impatient, refilling coffee cups while trying to not make eye contact with anyone. Stale stinky air, boiled coffee, greasy food, and absolutely nothing good about anything. I can't imagine spending my working career tired, needing a shower, and looking forward to finally getting out of my cab and into that place. Ughh. Not something to look forward to. Omg the way you described it it's like I'm there Ill pass on that hell ,I like too.shower at least twice a day Thanks db for keeping it real ,much too real |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Feb 18 2015, 11:41 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,486 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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My son has an acquaintance that became a driver...
Long hours, away form his wife and family... Then he had a small accident in his first year out of school, ($5K for school) not even his fault I am told. He became essentially unemployable, got only the trashiest of assignments, part time on contract, no benefits. No one would hire him until the accident got off his record. Not the way to spend a career for anyone with enthusiasm and aspirations for success, in addition to all the great advice above. Its not what it is made out to be by Hollywood I suppose its a good fit for some though. |
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| Elliot Cannon |
Feb 20 2015, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 18 2015, 08:55 PM) QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Feb 18 2015, 08:20 PM) $70 to$100k for flight training is a bit much. You can get what you need for way less. Do a little more research. The problem is gaining flight experience. Nowadays you need 2500 hours to be a co-pilot. Having said that, we are looking at a huge pilot shortage coming soon. All us old bastids are retiring. Trust me, flying is a better life than driving a truck (not that there is anything wrong with that) I have done both. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Do tell old bastard I live 10 mins from el Monte aeroport but have only found Private pilot school for 6 k And A t p in long beach , 70 k for commercial pilot course Having trouble finding much else near or in so cal Just point me in the right direction , I'll beat down the door Im 33 , if I was 10 years younger and had a college degree I'd join the aero force usaaf in a second and they could teach me but that ship has sailed so to speak . "Don't give me a p-39 with a engine thats mounted behind" Boeing with co-operation with the airlines is considering "ab initio" (I think that means 0 experience) flight training. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Regional airlines because of low pay rates are parking airplanes because they can't find pilots. If this is something you truly want, you will suffer through all the low pay and other hardships to get what you want. Ask me how I know. Or you can become a programmer or real estate salesman or... Certainly nothing wrong with that either, if that's what you want. Major airlines get pilots from the military or the smaller regional airlines. If they can't, then they have to train folks from off the street with "0" flying time. Kinda scary when you think about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| Type 47 |
Feb 20 2015, 08:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 1-June 10 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 11,790 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(steuspeed @ Feb 16 2015, 03:46 PM) Keep in mind that driverless trucks will be among the first implementations of driverless technology. Likely it will be airport to distribution centers for UPS and FedEx to start. Long haul trucking will be next, so the truck does not need to stop. Ah the driverless vehicle...giving "computer crash" a whole new meaning... Don't really see that happening for quite a while...looks good on the developing technology list though. Another glitch the techie's might not think of...Teamster's |
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| budk |
Feb 21 2015, 07:07 AM
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Yes! It's a Bumblebee! Group: Members Posts: 678 Joined: 24-July 10 From: Hickory, PA Member No.: 11,970 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Lot's of doom and gloom stories of what real OTR (Over the road) truckers have to deal with. However, in the areas of the country where they are drilling for natural gas (and other natural resources) there is a plethora of jobs that require a CDL.
24/7/365 local driving jobs in the fracking industry and they can't seem to find enough qualified drivers to fill all the openings. |
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| veekry9 |
Feb 21 2015, 01:22 PM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
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The pay is great for hazardous loads. However, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abDZ9svcnCA The mother of traffic jams in the '90s,a driver in his '20s flipped a fuel tanker off the onramp to WB QEW at Burloak Dr.(he was OK) |
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| altitude411 |
Feb 21 2015, 01:36 PM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Feb 27 2015, 08:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Feb 16 2015, 03:32 PM) Easiest is to find a place that has both Class B and Class A if they offer training. I worked at one place years ago that trained me on Class B (bobtail delivery truck) so I was able to get that license and then work on my Class A. I ended up leaving that company before I got my Class A (went back to school to get my A&P License) Having the Class B was a good thing since at the time getting a job in the aircraft field was tough so I got a job as a cement truck driver, I just had to take a test to carry liquids and pass that at the DMV) No idea about the schools, if anything like some of the other "job" training schools, they are great for taking your money and stringing you along for more money offering this and that...hopefully for a truck driver they are more honest. I don't miss driving as a professional that much anymore, I like being home everyday and not being out in the elements as I had to deal with being the cement truck driver or delivery driver. Good luck. What was the pay like driving the cement. truck ? |
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Feb 27 2015, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Feb 20 2015, 04:47 PM) QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 18 2015, 08:55 PM) QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Feb 18 2015, 08:20 PM) $70 to$100k for flight training is a bit much. You can get what you need for way less. Do a little more research. The problem is gaining flight experience. Nowadays you need 2500 hours to be a co-pilot. Having said that, we are looking at a huge pilot shortage coming soon. All us old bastids are retiring. Trust me, flying is a better life than driving a truck (not that there is anything wrong with that) I have done both. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Do tell old bastard I live 10 mins from el Monte aeroport but have only found Private pilot school for 6 k And A t p in long beach , 70 k for commercial pilot course Having trouble finding much else near or in so cal Just point me in the right direction , I'll beat down the door Im 33 , if I was 10 years younger and had a college degree I'd join the aero force usaaf in a second and they could teach me but that ship has sailed so to speak . "Don't give me a p-39 with a engine thats mounted behind" Boeing with co-operation with the airlines is considering "ab initio" (I think that means 0 experience) flight training. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Regional airlines because of low pay rates are parking airplanes because they can't find pilots. If this is something you truly want, you will suffer through all the low pay and other hardships to get what you want. Ask me how I know. Or you can become a programmer or real estate salesman or... Certainly nothing wrong with that either, if that's what you want. Major airlines get pilots from the military or the smaller regional airlines. If they can't, then they have to train folks from off the street with "0" flying time. Kinda scary when you think about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) So your saying it is possible to go from 0 hrs to airline pilot or co pilot but the money sucks And from what I understand to get to a regional or major airline , you must have a 4 yr college Degree Are there any high school grads flying for airline s ??? |
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Feb 27 2015, 09:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(budk @ Feb 21 2015, 05:07 AM) Lot's of doom and gloom stories of what real OTR (Over the road) truckers have to deal with. However, in the areas of the country where they are drilling for natural gas (and other natural resources) there is a plethora of jobs that require a CDL. 24/7/365 local driving jobs in the fracking industry and they can't seem to find enough qualified drivers to fill all the openings. Right I saw a Lisa ling special where they were paying crazy money for driving jobs and any oil drilling Jobs . N.Dakota I think , a girl was driving a fuel truck , 7. Days a week's making 120 k a year But I prefer to stay in cali |
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Feb 27 2015, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Dootsen
Is telling me the average expense of obtaining my cdl class a with them is. On average 900$ bucks Does this sound like a honest estimate , googled says between 3. An 7 thousand ( not at dootsen) And they claim to help with job placement also |
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Mar 2 2015, 12:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1438217056/r...ds=brett+aquila
Has anyone read this ?????? Brett aquila The truth about truck driving |
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| jfort |
Mar 2 2015, 01:02 PM
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I recently talked to a truck driver who was wanting to change companies. He had signed a non-compete as part of his contract. I my opinion (I am an attorney) it was enforceable, so he was trapped. Beware of that if you sign a contract.
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Mar 2 2015, 01:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
yeh that's why I'm paying for my own truck driving school . Some companies said we will pay for you school and put you up in a hotel , just sign here But I knew it was to good to be true , strings attached you could say . So I did it my way " I'm not a attorney but was raised Jewish So I know not to sign contracts .and that It's always implied that your signing your life away when signing any contract But thanks for the heads up |
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| Larmo63 |
Mar 2 2015, 02:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
I opted to become an underwear supermodel.
You should look a little further at career choices. |
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Mar 2 2015, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Mar 2 2015, 12:08 PM) I opted to become an underwear supermodel. You should look a little further at career choices. I can appreciate the fact that your too sexy for ,New York , Milan and Japan But I just thought haveing a truck driving license would be good career insurance in case I strike out in the Hawaiian tropics oil boy vocation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) And just fyi they are looking for two lucky guys |
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| Mueller |
Mar 2 2015, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Feb 27 2015, 06:55 PM) What was the pay like driving the cement. truck ? I couldn't tell you...too long ago to remember....now that I think of it, I don't know what I make now, it must be okay $ since the wife doesn't complain too much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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