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> Hitting the Dyno, Should be fun..
ThePaintedMan
post Mar 6 2015, 12:04 PM
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Very nice Shane. You should be proud of that, especially all the work you and Keith put into it.

I agree that the carbs are probably holding you back. What vents do you have in those 40s again? Are they 30mm? Eventually it would probably be prudent to get your hands on a set of 44s... or send your 40s to Racer Chris. He works magic on his that I simply can't do (mostly proprietary info that he developed over years and years of SCCA racing, but my guess is he reworks the vents and the carb throats so that they're at their very optimum.) And since he has a flow bench, he has verified that his 40s flow like 44s! I'd love to learn more about that someday.

The only other thing I would imagine that is holding you back is the heads, but you mentioned that before.

Still, very impressive dude. You should be proud.
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post Mar 6 2015, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Mar 6 2015, 01:04 PM) *

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And since he has a flow bench, ...

Its a flowbench of the mind, not one with an existence on the physical plane. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I use the same tool when I do port work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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post Mar 6 2015, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Mar 6 2015, 02:18 PM) *

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Mar 6 2015, 01:04 PM) *

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And since he has a flow bench, ...

Its a flowbench of the mind, not one with an existence on the physical plane. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I use the same tool when I do port work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)


Now THATS why we pay you the big bucks Chris. I can do stuff on "theory" as well, but without the experience you have, I'm still mostly shooting in the dark. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
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post Mar 6 2015, 03:18 PM
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Nice...must be a blast to drive!
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post Mar 6 2015, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Mar 6 2015, 01:04 PM) *

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I agree that the carbs are probably holding you back. What vents do you have in those 40s again? Are they 30mm? Eventually it would probably be prudent to get your hands on a set of 44s... or send your 40s to Racer Chris.
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primary venturis should be 36mm, but a stock 40IDF doesn't work all that well with venturis so big.
The carb inlet diameter is too small.
I can fix that.
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post Mar 6 2015, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Mar 6 2015, 02:07 PM) *

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Mar 6 2015, 01:04 PM) *

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I agree that the carbs are probably holding you back. What vents do you have in those 40s again? Are they 30mm? Eventually it would probably be prudent to get your hands on a set of 44s... or send your 40s to Racer Chris.
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primary venturis should be 36mm, but a stock 40IDF doesn't work all that well with venturis so big.
The carb inlet diameter is too small.
I can fix that.


I did the 34 venturis kit from CB. We did it a while back and the car does like it better. Called Chris to modify the carbs but I was spending so much on the car at that time. Needed to stop the bleeding. Not that it was to expensive, I didn't want to spend anything after the engine build. maybe one day we will get them done right.
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post Mar 6 2015, 07:02 PM
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On a Carb'd Motor, you really need a Carb Expert with a lot of different Jets to do a good Dyno Day.

Good Numbers though - what I expected! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

Similar numbers that I had in this car.

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post Mar 9 2015, 05:32 PM
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We got Papa Smurf dyno'd the same week as you!
Not sure you want to see the chart though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Suffice it to say, I was very happy....
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post Mar 9 2015, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(naro914 @ Mar 9 2015, 03:32 PM) *

We got Papa Smurf dyno'd the same week as you!
Not sure you want to see the chart though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Suffice it to say, I was very happy....


Lets see it!! Judging by that video i think your north of 250hp?
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post Mar 9 2015, 06:17 PM
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Lets see it!! Judging by that video i think your north of 250hp?

Just a bit... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 9 2015, 07:06 PM
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Sweet thing is the torque hangs in there 'way up to 7500+, really nice, and what a fine AFR trace--nice tuning!
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post Mar 9 2015, 07:11 PM
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Yeah, I was very happy. Ed Senf - who is the race engineer for Rum Bum Racing, engine development manager for Kinetics and engineer for a couple other pro teams - did the tuning. For better or worse, he knows our engine very well...too well if you ask me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Notice that we've run 44 runs with him the past couple years...

He got it up to 316 hp and 256 tq, but it was too lean. I don't need to be burning up engines...
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post Mar 9 2015, 09:14 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Whatever. That's a six and on a VERY different budget. And, Shane built his himself. Apple's to oranges. Nice job again Shane.
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post Mar 10 2015, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Mar 9 2015, 11:14 PM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Whatever. That's a six and on a VERY different budget. And, Shane built his himself. Apple's to oranges. Nice job again Shane.

Oh I agree, apples to oranges. Shane's engine is a VERY sweet 4!! HE asked to see it, I wasn't going to post it.
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post Mar 10 2015, 11:08 AM
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Nice looking chart, Bob ...

Is that at the wheels?
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post Mar 10 2015, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(stownsen914 @ Mar 10 2015, 01:08 PM) *

Nice looking chart, Bob ...

Is that at the wheels?

Yes, at the wheels.
I meant to take pictures and/or video of the dyno runs, but completely forgot.
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post Mar 10 2015, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(naro914 @ Mar 10 2015, 01:23 PM) *

Yes, at the wheels.



Wow, nice
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