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Advice on a 14, Future buyer? |
Bleyseng |
Jun 6 2003, 09:52 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have to agree with Ferg as its a buyers market now and the 914's for sale are coming out of storage or given up projects.
Carry cash! Cash talks Bullshit walks! Geoff |
SirAndy |
Jun 6 2003, 11:02 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,602 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Jun 6 2003, 08:52 AM) Carry cash! Cash talks Bullshit walks! that seems to be a "american thing". can someone please explain to me why $3500 in cash today is any better than $4500 in my bank account on tuesday ??? confused (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Andy |
Ferg |
Jun 6 2003, 11:25 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Andy, I think it comes down to two things.
1. Most people list their cars for more thank what they are willing to "take". 2. A sure thing (35 100 dollar bills in front of you) makes more sense than holding out on the "other guy" who seems interested on the phone, and is "talking to his bank" ect. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Ferg. |
J P Stein |
Jun 6 2003, 11:30 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
It's a take off from the olde German expression:
"a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the sauer-braten"....or sumthin like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) |
SirAndy |
Jun 6 2003, 11:49 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,602 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Jun 6 2003, 10:30 AM) It's a take off from the olde German expression: "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the sauer-braten"....or sumthin like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) haha, i actually kind of remember that one ... still, if i want to sell my car for $4500 then you can wave 35 $100 bills in front of me all day (without much luck), but i'd take that $4500 check of yours right away. Andy |
DNHunt |
Jun 6 2003, 11:54 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
No Andy, you take a cashiers check. Be careful with personal checks. don't ask how I know.
Dave |
Bleyseng |
Jun 6 2003, 12:01 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Andy YOUR check might be good but there is soo many flakes out there who bounce checks. If they have already driven away in the car YOU have to chase them down for the money, ie: small claims court which is a joke plus you have signed the title away already!
Geoff |
J P Stein |
Jun 6 2003, 12:09 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Actually, Andy, I agree with you.
I have held out for my price (or close...real close) to it on a number of occasions. I'm presently doing so on a piece of river front property I'm selling. From the buyers side I don't lowball folks. If the item is what I have been looking for...for 6 months (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , I give an offer that can be accepted with no ill will from the seller. A "rust free" (an oxymoron if there ever was one)914 in the NW IS a rarity. Anyone that has one knows what it is worth....no sense pissing him (or her) off. To my way of thinking, when you find one, you leave with it. A fist fulla money is a gud thing to have. |
SirAndy |
Jun 6 2003, 12:10 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,602 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Jun 6 2003, 11:01 AM) Andy YOUR check might be good but there is soo many flakes out there who bounce checks. If they have already driven away in the car YOU have to chase them down for the money, ie: small claims court which is a joke plus you have signed the title away already! Geoff thats why i said "tuesday" in my post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) of couse i wouldn't hand you over the keys until your check has cleared ... Andy |
Bleyseng |
Jun 6 2003, 12:31 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Well, I do agree with you JP about lowballing. Its fine to make an offer less than the asking price and dicker alittle if the item's value is in question. Don't insult me or I won't insult someone else with joke offers.
When I buy something I do carry cash cuz I missed out on a few deals coming back later as "A guy with cash showed up right after you left and I didn't think you were coming back." A good clean rust free 914 is rare in the NW, I have seen them but most are 1.8L cars for some reason. I have seen tons of rusted out junk cars that people want "Top dollar" for cuz it sez "Porsche" on the engine grill. Geoff |
Lawrence |
Jun 6 2003, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,661 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 244 Region Association: None |
Offering the most you can pay on an item, even if it's much lower than asking price, isn't lowballing in my opinion. If that's really the limit of my budget, I don't see harm in asking politely. No hard feelings if my offer is rejected.
But lowballing just to see if you can take advantage of someone in a jam... that's not cool. -Rusty |
Bleyseng |
Jun 6 2003, 12:47 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yeah, well at swap meets there are always guys who will offer $1 for a eurolens or a nice steering wheel. Thats horse shit to even offer it. IMHO
Cars are different, so offer away and we'll see if we are close at all. Geoff |
Ferg |
Jun 6 2003, 12:54 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Ya gotta know how to read people, when it comes to offers. I have brokered deals for vehicles 30k under value, and when the person your buying or selling with has more money than god, I have no guilt. But i'm sure not going to go up to someone who knows what they have and lowball.
Ferg. |
Lawrence |
Jun 6 2003, 12:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,661 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 244 Region Association: None |
I'd buy euro lenses for two dollars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Ferg |
Jun 6 2003, 01:03 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
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I keep looking for that "lost classic" in the barn evertime I'm in Kansas or Nebraska pheasant hunting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) |
Lawrence |
Jun 6 2003, 01:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,661 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 244 Region Association: None |
Sometimes when I'm driving though Missouri or Arkansas, I see these old cars in fields, covered in rust. These things were made of THICK sheet metal...
I wonder what it would be like to turn one of those hulks into a street rod. -Rusty |
Bleyseng |
Jun 6 2003, 02:09 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have stopped a few times when I see a 914 parked in the NW. ALL of them are rusted out pos, like the 70 I got for free. If I talk to the owner, its been yeah, its a Porsche and I'll sell it to you cheap for $3k. Just needs a little welding and paint.
There are 3 sitting in the front yard of a house on the way out to Alki beach. All 75's that are rusted to hell. The rain kills 914's big time in the NW. Geoff |
VegasRacer |
Jun 6 2003, 02:48 PM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,475 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
914 for sale by owner. Cheap. Needs work.
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rhodyguy |
Jun 7 2003, 05:42 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,055 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
i spoke with the guy re the car in spanaway. a 75. asked the guy to tell me about the car. been in storage for 10 yrs when he bought it. appearently when you start it smoke comes up through the interior vents. the guy thinks a squirrel ( a rat) built a nest in the fan or heat exch. a couple of 914 guys have stopped by to check it out for use as a parts car. "one guy said not much there to use". he has been told it's easy to remove engine tin and heat exch to clean. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) current owner told me, drum roll please,"i'm just trying to get out what i have into it" :gilloutine:
kevin |
Bleyseng |
Jun 7 2003, 09:38 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Damn Kevin, your car should be done by now if you are working on it at 3:42AM on a Saturday!
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