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Rotisserie Alternatives, Looking for options |
jpnovak |
Jul 7 2015, 07:14 AM
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They call me "Nanoman" Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 26-August 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,736 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Build a 914 version of this. I built one for my 911. About $200 in materials and fits inside a normal garage. a full rotisserie is too long for me. Easy to flip with one person and very stable.
Yes, make sure you brace the tub. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...rotisserie.html |
mbseto |
Jul 7 2015, 07:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
I've got two door braces on each side. One goes from the door latch to the lower hinge, the other goes from the upper seat belt boss to the upper hinge. Two door braces allows control over the door gaps at the top and at the bottom of the door. I think of it as being able to adjust distance AND rotation.
I've seen the experienced guys here recommend a square brace inside the tub in addition to the door braces. After watching my frame flexing just on the dolly, I would certainly do that before mounting on a rotisserie. |
JoeDees |
Jul 7 2015, 09:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-November 14 From: Northern Kentucky Member No.: 18,106 Region Association: None |
This is the good kind of worrying that leads to better prep. But I'm worried about the ass end twisting or breaking off. There is definitely a brace being designed and built over the next week's time.
On the good news front, I found rust in the trunk, but after exploratory surgery I found that it was only surface with minor pitting. Also found my first bondo on the car, but cant figure out why it was there... the area is straight, it seems like they just wanted to smooth out those little divot areas where the license plate lights mount... |
JoeDees |
Jul 7 2015, 10:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-November 14 From: Northern Kentucky Member No.: 18,106 Region Association: None |
Maybe we can make "the bracing, jig, body alignment, etc thread"
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VWTortuga336 |
Aug 6 2016, 08:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 285 Joined: 5-October 14 From: Kansas City, Missouri Member No.: 17,979 Region Association: None |
I know this is an old post, but (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
I'm debating on the best approach to take with my rust repairs as well (outer longs, he'll hole, and some small patches in both trunks) - leave the doors in and set the gap by jacking up the rear of the car, or door braces/rotisserie. |
Mark Henry |
Aug 6 2016, 09:12 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The young lad needs to build a rotisserie I like the Restoration Design 911 one, but how would you tie into the 914?
The engine stands at ends type takes up to much room. On bracing, wouldn't you want to leave the door shells in to check gaps? I don't think his car has front sway bar mounts so what would be a good alternative? Although hopefully not near as involved as the one in the pic below, this is one of the repairs needed. So where would you tie into the rear? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-10428-1435840644.jpg) |
Mark Henry |
Aug 6 2016, 09:20 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The young lad needs to build a rotisserie I like the Restoration Design 911 one, but how would you tie into the 914? Found the rotisserie they made for the 914 and it's mount points https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiGB_MHBbls |
budk |
Aug 6 2016, 09:33 AM
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Yes! It's a Bumblebee! Group: Members Posts: 677 Joined: 24-July 10 From: Hickory, PA Member No.: 11,970 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Found the rotisserie they made for the 914 and it's mount points https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiGB_MHBbls [/quote] I used RD's design and their detail drawings to make mine. It works great but I have too much junk in my garage which makes getting around it a little difficult. If you use their drawings, be care with the rear mounts. They may have corrected it by now but the drawings I used had the rear mounts show 180 deg off of how they needed to be attached. Nothing a grinder and more welding couldn't fix. |
JoeDees |
Aug 8 2016, 09:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-November 14 From: Northern Kentucky Member No.: 18,106 Region Association: None |
I know this is an old post, but (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I'm debating on the best approach to take with my rust repairs as well (outer longs, he'll hole, and some small patches in both trunks) - leave the doors in and set the gap by jacking up the rear of the car, or door braces/rotisserie. If I were doing my long repairs again, here's what I would do: build a frame jig that can be attached a removable cart/dolly, jack up the rear to set the gaps, remove doors and install braces that still allow the doors to be installed to continually check gaps, and constantly take your measurements. |
Red76 |
Feb 7 2018, 04:08 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 28-December 16 From: East Tennessee Member No.: 20,703 Region Association: None |
Lots of different designs for rotisseries on here. Heres some pics of one I rescued from my buddies scrap pile. He built it to float his 39 Cadillac LaSalle. Not sure but it could probably float a school bus. I’m just about ready to take my tub airborne. Just have to finish welding the bracket for the back bumper
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Red76 |
Feb 7 2018, 04:16 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 28-December 16 From: East Tennessee Member No.: 20,703 Region Association: None |
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Dutchy4U |
Apr 25 2019, 05:13 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 26-December 18 From: New Ulm, TX Member No.: 22,752 Region Association: Southwest Region |
anyone who has been restoring chassis complete 914
I'm thinking about removing the complete harnas, should I and HOW ? |
billium01 |
Apr 25 2019, 08:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: 12-April 13 Member No.: 15,764 Region Association: None |
Not to poopoo RD's rotisserie idea but it looks like IMHO, it could use addition bracing to keep the chassis from twisting as it's rotated around. Especially so if the floor it's sitting on is uneven or it's construction is out of wack. Any thoughts on that?
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Superhawk996 |
Apr 26 2019, 07:05 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,752 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I've accessed all the structural elements you reference on this dolly. Jeff Hail has this right. Strong, stable, level surface to work from. All dimensions are posted on his thread. I've hard mounted at transmission mounts and the front crossmember. In my case I'm replacing the inner wheelhouse without cutting the rear quarter panel for access. Because of this, I am not mounting to the rear suspension outer console but it is a key suspension point that needs to be properly located. I'm very happy with this - it was well worth the time to build. |
gereed75 |
Apr 26 2019, 07:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
I am about to build a similar chassis dolly but will be integrating it into my mid rise scissor lift.
My question - which material is straighter/stronger, square tube or C channel?? I think the C channel may be a bit more versatile as the heavier wall and flanges might provide more options to weld/ clamp to ? |
bbrock |
Apr 26 2019, 07:30 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
anyone who has been restoring chassis complete 914 I'm thinking about removing the complete harnas, should I and HOW ? I would. Basically, everything gets pulled into the main cabin of the car and the harness is removed from there. There are a number of threads with details so try a search. I think there is one in the classics forum which should make finding it easier. People complain about removing and installing the main harness but it is really pretty easy on a stripped chassis. For me, it was the last thing out and the first thing put back in. |
Superhawk996 |
Apr 26 2019, 07:33 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,752 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I am about to build a similar chassis dolly but will be integrating it into my mid rise scissor lift. My question - which material is straighter/stronger, square tube or C channel?? Square tube given same wall thickness. I've been contemplating building mine up to also be a rotisserie once I get the structure stabilized. I'd rather weld the floorpan on in some position other than overhead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
914werke |
Apr 26 2019, 11:22 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,027 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Depending on YOUR repair (of if you plan on doing more than one) you may need both!
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David Billo |
Apr 26 2019, 01:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: 23-November 17 From: Plainfield, Ontario Member No.: 21,625 Region Association: Canada |
Not to poopoo RD's rotisserie idea but it looks like IMHO, it could use addition bracing to keep the chassis from twisting as it's rotated around. Especially so if the floor it's sitting on is uneven or it's construction is out of wack. Any thoughts on that? I agree. The RD rotisserie is great for a car that is structurally sound and has the doors braced, but it seems too flexible for fixing the longs where you have to cut out too many parts that keep the car rigid. |
mepstein |
Apr 26 2019, 01:49 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,242 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I would never put a 914 on a rotisserie to fix the longs. We do it all the time for 911 coupes (with bracing) because they have built in support with the roof. It’s very easy to find a used industrial metal table. Check craigslist. Lay the chassis on the table and it will help keep the chassis straight vs a rotisserie that is trying to bend it and letting it twist as soon as you start cutting the long.
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