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> Fuel Pump Cutoff For Carbs
Spoke
post Jul 13 2015, 08:57 PM
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I'm preparing to install a 2056 dual Weber carb engine in my car and was thinking about how to control the fuel pump. I'll use the existing FI fuel pump relay as done many times before by grounding the appropriate pin on the FI ECU connector to energize the relay with ignition on.

I want to add a safety feature to power the fuel pump only when the engine is running. This is done with all FI systems in case of accident so the fuel pump doesn't keep pumping if the engine has stopped. I want the same functionality with carbs.

I'm designing a PCB to power the fuel pump like DJET systems do: Turn the key on and the fuel pump charges the system for 2 seconds then turns off. When the engine starts turning, the fuel pump will run.

I forsee 4 wires:
GND: picked up on a chassis lug near the relay board
12V switched: Picked up on the FI ECU socket
Relay: Picket up on the FI ECU socket
Coil Neg: This goes to the tach as well.

The coil negative would be the signal to indicate engine running.

Should I consider any other functionality of the fuel pump controller? Anyone interested in a PCB like this?

Does a 2 second precharge do anything for a carbed engine? I could see if the carb bowls were not full but other than that, not sure a precharge does anything.
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Spoke   Fuel Pump Cutoff For Carbs   Jul 13 2015, 08:57 PM
ejm   Get a fuel pump relay for an early fuel injected V...   Jul 13 2015, 09:14 PM
Mark Henry   Get a fuel pump relay for an early fuel injected ...   Jul 14 2015, 11:36 AM
SLITS   Mallory (Mr. Gasket) used to make a switch that wo...   Jul 13 2015, 09:45 PM
SirAndy   Mallory (Mr. Gasket) used to make a switch that w...   Jul 13 2015, 09:51 PM
Mike Bellis   Get an inertia switch for a collision cut off.   Jul 13 2015, 09:59 PM
stugray   What you are looking for is a pulse detector circu...   Jul 13 2015, 10:45 PM
Spoke   What you are looking for is a pulse detector circ...   Jul 14 2015, 05:00 PM
stugray   The engine has Pertronix Ignitor so it's a cl...   Jul 14 2015, 06:56 PM
Spoke   Simplest would be to just have a RC circuit that ...   Jul 17 2015, 12:11 AM
jcd914   VW/Audi early 80s CIS fuel pump relays used tach s...   Jul 14 2015, 01:21 AM
rgolia   Jerry, When you figure it out count me in.   Jul 14 2015, 11:19 AM
Valy   I agree. I think running a fuel pump without an au...   Jul 14 2015, 04:37 PM
jcd914   The tach signal passes thru the engine compartment...   Jul 14 2015, 06:51 PM
stugray   First comment is make sure your design can handle ...   Jul 17 2015, 01:20 AM
jt914-6   http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-890145 This ...   Jul 17 2015, 04:02 PM
stugray   http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-890145 This...   Jul 17 2015, 04:34 PM
andys   http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-890145 This...   Aug 8 2015, 12:56 PM
Spoke   Here's a circuit with a 555. Simpler than the ...   Jul 17 2015, 10:57 PM
Valy   And still, my single relay circuit does the same j...   Jul 17 2015, 11:12 PM
Mark Henry   And still, my single relay circuit does the same ...   Jul 18 2015, 06:44 AM
John Jentz   And still, my single relay circuit does the same...   Jul 18 2015, 08:33 AM
Spoke   Sometimes the challenge of reinventing the wheel ...   Aug 30 2015, 08:26 AM
Spoke   And still, my single relay circuit does the same...   Jul 18 2015, 09:54 AM
euro911   ... Keep in mind that I am an engineer and it...   Jul 18 2015, 11:24 PM
porschetub   And still, my single relay circuit does the same...   Aug 8 2015, 10:59 PM
Valy   You're not true to your signature: "CSOB ...   Jul 18 2015, 11:06 PM
Spoke   You're not true to your signature: "CSOB...   Aug 8 2015, 06:29 AM
Spoke   Here's a first cut at the PCB and the FI plug....   Jul 19 2015, 08:57 AM
Spoke   Here's a simpler circuit which interfaces to t...   Jul 19 2015, 04:17 PM
Spoke   Here's the layout of the oil pressure fuel-pum...   Jul 19 2015, 09:51 PM
Spoke   Got the boards back. Gotta order a few parts then ...   Aug 7 2015, 09:02 PM
euro911   Oh, when you said they were going to be really tin...   Aug 7 2015, 09:22 PM
Spoke   Oh, when you said they were going to be really ti...   Aug 8 2015, 06:26 AM
Harpo   Very nice there Jerry. I would be interested in o...   Aug 8 2015, 12:13 PM
mepstein   BJ's 6 conversion caught fire when the fuel pu...   Aug 9 2015, 04:54 AM
SKL1   Got the Ford inertia switches for both my cars- in...   Aug 29 2015, 10:06 PM


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