 what to do? NEED YOUR VOTE !, Should I convert? Restore to Original? |
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| Beebo Kanelle |
 Jul 27 2015, 07:17 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 15,177 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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Hello All !
I've lurked for years, reading all the posts... Great People / Great Stories / Great Cars - I have a 1972 1.7? that the previous owner had grown frustrated restoring... It just had a few electrical issues which I, being old, bald and fat, had the patience to hunt down and cure. Its in pretty good shape - and the mighty 80 hp can be fun... kinda. but last May here in Houston, my home flooded (approx 2", which means 7" in my garage). I have just started driving it again... and, as you can guess, its a little stiff in the joints... so now the time has come: A) Do I restore it back to original condition? B) Do I hot rod the Type IV engine? ( I do like the space design of the car) C) Do I go batshit and convert to ls3 w/Boxster S transaxle / 916 body / stiffeners . . . the whole 9 yards.... D) Subaru Power? I need the guidance and leadership from the learned members of 914 World. Please vote - Your input is greatly appreciated. thanks in advance beebo p.s. - What is the best way to ascertain to original factory build for a 914 / specifically, this car? |
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| mepstein |
Jul 27 2015, 07:19 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,222 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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| boxsterfan |
Jul 27 2015, 07:23 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
How much money do you have? Is all the rust removed? If not, tear the chassis down to a tub and get all the rust remove/repaired. Then build what you can afford.
Personally, I like the narrow body cars and I don't have the need for 300HP in my 914. That's just me. Opinions will vary. |
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| JawjaPorsche |
Jul 27 2015, 07:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
My two cents: original.
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| Elliot Cannon |
Jul 27 2015, 07:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None 
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Go "all out". In other words, spend as much on the car as you can afford/justify. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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| montoya 73 2.0 |
Jul 27 2015, 07:30 PM
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Lack of consideration to others, and Selfish! Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Paso Robles, Ca. Member No.: 3,016 Region Association: Central California |
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| somd914 |
Jul 27 2015, 07:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,171 Joined: 21-February 11 From: Southern Maryland Member No.: 12,741 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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Bottom line is no matter what you do you won't please everyone. It's your car, your money, your time, and your enjoyment. Do what you want to do, don't worry about us. Do agree with boxsterfan however, take care of rust now, otherwise it will only get worse and more expensive. |
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| Mblizzard |
Jul 27 2015, 07:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
I say keep it orginal on the out side and load it with performance. I say build yourself a good 2056 or bigger from your 1.7. If you have the cash have Orginal Customs, the Type IV Store, or other known vendor spec you out a good 125 to 150 hp engine. You can have tons of fun with that. If you want to go nuts check out a Raby engine. The Raby engine is, in my book, the holy grail of performance and drive ability.
Taking that approach allows you to go back to stock but have lots of fun tinkering. |
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| Beebo Kanelle |
Jul 27 2015, 08:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 15,177 Region Association: Southwest Region
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I am lucky - no rust - everything is powder coated... It saw the 7" of water for approx 3 hours... which means the exhaust / wheel bearings / linkages, cables , et.al.
I originally bought the car originally to hot rod... but it was just too nice. and was looking for an excuse to juice it up - I don't see many with original fuel injection, original configuration... I have hotrodded other cars in the past and they have been quite thrilling, to say the least. love 'em! I am just torn as to what to do... and was wondering what the community thought . maybe a Raby? and 5 lugs? any and all feed back is greatly appreciated. |
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| Dave_Darling |
Jul 27 2015, 08:11 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,980 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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What is your goal? Concours? Investment? (Hint--most cars are awful investments!) Track? Street? Grin-inducing machine?
Figure out your goals, and figure out your budget. Cut the budget in half, and work out what you can do with that. It will give you a direction to go in. (BTW, you'll get back to your original budget in cost if you pretend you're shooting for half the budget.) --DD |
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| Mblizzard |
Jul 27 2015, 08:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Beebo Kanelle @ Jul 27 2015, 06:02 PM)  I am lucky - no rust - everything is powder coated... It saw the 7" of water for approx 3 hours... which means the exhaust / wheel bearings / linkages, cables , et.al. I originally bought the car originally to hot rod... but it was just too nice. and was looking for an excuse to juice it up - I don't see many with original fuel injection, original configuration... I have hotrodded other cars in the past and they have been quite thrilling, to say the least. love 'em! I am just torn as to what to do... and was wondering what the community thought . maybe a Raby? and 5 lugs? any and all feed back is greatly appreciated. That is a hell of a good approach. Also address the suspension as more HP needs more control. Unless you can document a recent suspension replacement plan on changing everything. |
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| KELTY360 |
Jul 27 2015, 08:30 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,028 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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OK, if nobody else is going to say it, I will:
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) If you like the space utilization of the 914, then keep it air cooled. That means upgrading a TypeIV or converting to a six...both good choices depending on your budget. If you want to keep original FI then a 2056 is about the top of the displacement chart, but that can get you 120-150 hp, gobs of torque and retain the inherent charm of a 914. Probably the most cost effective also so you can spend funds on suspension upgrades. Whatever you decide, have fun and post pictures. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
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| Beebo Kanelle |
Jul 27 2015, 08:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 15,177 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Thanks to all - I never expected such a quick response. It just seems from y'all's feedback I should go with a nasty Type IV and a superior suspension.
Do the 5 lugs help in any way? or is it that the larger brakes can be fitted? Being the aforementioned old, bald and fat, I am going to job this out. Again, how do you go about finding the original factory build? I really don't know the color / options as it came from the factory... Who is the best at suspension? Transaxle? Stiffening? limited Slip?  |
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| PanelBilly |
Jul 27 2015, 09:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,796 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I say "go light weight" make everything super thin. Take off every pound you can spare and then put in a clean running /4. Don't go to radical. Make it drivable.
Just my 2cents |
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| Cairo94507 |
Jul 27 2015, 09:46 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,703 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Damn, that is a sweet looking 914. So because of that I would lean towards a semi-hot 4 cylinder with FI. Then dial in the suspension and brakes. I say semi-hot because I think some of the extreme built 4 cylinders don't last as long as one would hope. So for me, moderation is the key to longevity. I like the sleeper looking cars. Oh and we are not letting you off the hook with one photo......
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| matthepcat |
Jul 27 2015, 09:52 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
Turbo it.
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| mrfourteen |
Jul 27 2015, 09:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 1-November 13 From: Oregon out in the Mozarks Member No.: 16,596 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If it aint broke don't fix it. You want to drive or work on it?
The love diminishes exponentially with every day it's not drivable. Life is short GO DRIVE IT!!! |
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| ConeDodger |
Jul 27 2015, 10:08 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,552 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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I occasionally imagine a time when all the cars having been flared, guys start converting them back to narrow body...
Just restore it. It's a great looking car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| Chris Pincetich |
Jul 27 2015, 10:43 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Restored is awesome, but if that means a repaint, forget about it, because your car looks great right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
If that is the original yellow, and #s matching engine, working D-jet, correct wheels, etc etc then go for a restoration! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) BUT if it were ME that had more $$$ I'd build/get built a 2.2 TIV hot rod engine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Definitely re-do as much of the suspension as possible ASAP and you will not be disappointed: turbo tie roads, new ball joints, new low-friction bushings, adjustable shocks, and absolutely positively a big anti-roll bar up front. Oh, and a good 4->1 header does wonders for a 1.7 TIV. Mine feels like at least 90 HP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Are there any curvy roads in Texas? |
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| Larmo63 |
Jul 27 2015, 10:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
I found that going five lug really stiffened up the suspension. I did it all correctly, powder coated, replaced, and all the best stuff that made sense + factory sway bars. I highly recommend it, but it ain't cheap. Now, I'm going 911 engine.
Your car almost looks too nice to screw with, so rebuild THAT suspension to the max and do a bigger type IV. (although I will say that the five lug Fuchs would look great on your car) |
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