 914 Racecars, What class are you running in? |
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| Stutgart46 |
 Feb 28 2005, 06:50 PM
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Stutgart46  Group: Members Posts: 396 Joined: 20-November 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 1,365  |
I have been reviewing the 2005 SCCA Rulebook, fascinating stuff (read sarcastically), and I was wondering what class the 914 is competitive in.
I am familiar with PCA and HSR rules but not so much with SCCA. I ran a few races in a Spec Miata but those rules are simple. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. |
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| J P Stein |
Feb 28 2005, 06:54 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
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| 914forme |
Feb 28 2005, 07:10 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None 
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SCCA - None the rules are a pain
NASA - I love these rules - base class and points for mods. PCA - Any class you can fit into 914s are better than any of them tail-draggers and water pumpers. But I run auto-x I set the car up for PCA stuff where suspension is pretty much a free for all, NASA is close to the same. SCCA I show up for seat time. |
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| spare time toys |
Feb 28 2005, 09:39 PM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Im running in the Jack Stand division this year (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
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| d914 |
Feb 28 2005, 09:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,331 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
pca, semi tube frame 2.2 or 2.8 gt 5 or gt4. around here the is a gt4 thats faster than the gt3's!!!!
HSR very easy nasa, ck=hecking them out in march at road atlanta... SCCA,,,,,,,????? GT2 if a six??? |
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| drew365 |
Feb 28 2005, 10:00 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
Don't know SCCA. In POC my car is V3 which is heavily modified. There are 914s in nearly every class in POC, but it takes so many more modifications that we are usually not competitive as a front runner. You have to run a 914 because you want to not because you want to win.
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| smg914 |
Feb 28 2005, 10:32 PM
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Sahara Beige Steve Group: Members Posts: 1,962 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 1,695 Region Association: None  |
Chad,
Did you check out SCCA Vintage? I understand it is quite fun. |
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| xitspd |
Feb 28 2005, 10:37 PM
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Technology and Tradition 3.6 and 914-6 Group: Members Posts: 1,305 Joined: 17-November 04 From: Foothills of Mt. San Jacinto, CA Member No.: 3,136 |
You are so right Andy! My 914-6 specs out to V0.... The STS series is the only place there is for a 914 win or place.... |
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| Stutgart46 |
Mar 1 2005, 07:53 AM
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Stutgart46 Group: Members Posts: 396 Joined: 20-November 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 1,365 |
Steve,
I have looked into SCCA Vintage and it looks pretty good. The best thing about SCCA is that they run a lot of events and they're usually close to home. As for POC, there is not a region near Texas. I have been discussing possibilites of bringing a PBOC chapter to Texas with the founders. BTW Steve, I'll be in town for the 12 Hours of Sebring. Are you guys heading down? |
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| groot |
Mar 1 2005, 09:38 AM
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Dis member Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,444 |
Ahem....the SCCA can be a pain in the ass, but that's where I like to run.
914-6, 2.0L does okay in EP, but they just increased the choke size from 34 to 38mm, so look out this year 914-4, 2.0L in EP, jury's still out... I'll let you know later in the season, but I think it'll do okay, or else I wouldn't be investing in it 914-4, 1.8L does pretty well in FP... check out this thread Link to Prod website race report from last weekend in CA 914-6 in GT, can be competitive 914-4 in GT, forget about it unless you want to spend a lot of time getting the rules adjusted |
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| type47 |
Mar 1 2005, 09:42 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i have a '73 that qualifies for pca class I
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| machina |
Mar 1 2005, 09:55 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848  |
We run with SCCA down here in FL in the vintage class and EP sometimes.
Vintage is more like gentlemans racing. We are all grouped together, from open wheel formula cars to big block GT-1 corvettes. Usually you just find a couple guys you know are close to your time and race with them. I built my car with production class in mind so I can move to EP pretty easily rules wise. I think it depends what you want to do. You can definitely place well regionally in EP but to go to the nationals would be tough. PBOC down here runs by POC rules which would put me in V5 class (race as R7). That means I would race against fully stock 911 SC or 2.5 boxsters. I think we could really do well there but just haven't had time to run with them yet. I'm lucky to get away one weekend a month. |
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| slivel |
Mar 1 2005, 11:26 AM
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Old car....... older driver Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 10-July 04 From: San Diego Member No.: 2,332 Region Association: Southern California |
75 914/6 conversion 3.4 L
PCA: GT3-S POC: R2-S HSR: 3H POC is not kind to 914 's with modifications. I am most competitive in PCA because GT3 goes form 2.8 to 3.4 L HSR is most fun because of the great variety of cars to compete with. Steve |
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| Joe Ricard |
Mar 1 2005, 11:43 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
SCCA sm-2
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| kart54 |
Mar 1 2005, 01:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 544 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Ventura, California Member No.: 3,520 |
Hi Stuttgart,
Boy, alot of info, not SCCA. Simple question, complex answer. I am preparing a 1.8 with fuel injection. According to SCCA's 2005 GCR (rule book) I am eligible for G prod. Depending upon primarily the engine and to a lesser degree your mods you would be in E, F or G prod. You can download the production portion of the GCR from SCCA's website. If the orange car in the picture is yours you are probably looking at E prod. Bob Kirby has been very successful there for years with what appears to be a similar car. I just finished the SCCA super school at willow this weekend in a rented car. It was a real blast. Most fun I've had in years racing. If your going to SCCA you will have to go through their school no matter what your experience. Having been to PCA and PRC events as well as SCCA I can tell you there is a world of difference. If you have any questions you can contact me off this list. I've done a ton of research in the last two months and I have a copy of the GCR that sits at my office desk ready to go. Randy G Prod Porsche #58 |
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| groot |
Mar 1 2005, 01:51 PM
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Dis member Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,444 |
I always forget about the 914 in GP...... Sorry about that. I've never had FI on my 914 so I never really considered it for IT or GP.
IT (Improved Touring) is an option, too. The SCCA is shaking up IT in a big way with regards to weights and classing right now. It's hard to say whether a 914 would have a chance at competing in IT. |
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| machina |
Mar 1 2005, 02:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
Its amazing how many classes a 914 can qualify for.
My friend with a BMW 325 has much fewer choices. Its hard to be competitive in most because the rules have made it tough on these little cars, the're that damn good. |
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| ArtechnikA |
Mar 1 2005, 02:22 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
Geez, Dan! you've got a 15-line sig and a one-line post ! okay, it's quite a car, but do we hafta read about it in every 1-line reply? (sorry - curmugeon mode - but i hadda say something ...) |
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| J P Stein |
Mar 1 2005, 02:41 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Heh.....Rich, most all of the other car type BBSs have this "feature".....as I'm sure you're aware. I think it to establish one's bonafides...or sumthin'. I use "2.7L/Webers/NARP"
over on the bird board. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) I feel there is a lack of give a shit about the rest of my resume. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| ArtechnikA |
Mar 1 2005, 02:46 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
i understand. but frankly, i will be neither more nor less impressed by you or your car based on what kind of shift knob you have... (not "you" specifically. "you" as in "anyone" ...) |
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