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> Warped rotor?, Have now confirmed it's warped.
john77
post Aug 8 2015, 03:28 PM
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About a month ago something in the rear of my car started making this high-pitched squeaking, metal on metal noise when I was reversing. Not constantly, but like something turning was binding and releasing, binding and releasing. I only had the rear bearings replaced 6 months ago, so i hoped it wasn't that.

With the car up on stands and the rear wheels removed I've isolated it to the driver's side rear wheel. If I turn the rotor by hand it rotates freely and then gets really hard to rotate, and then gets easy, and so on.

My first guess is that somehow I've warped the rotor. Does that sound right? I've never tracked the car, but I do ax it. Or could it be something else? I have the 5 lug conversion, so I believe they're off a 911.

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post Aug 27 2015, 11:22 AM
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Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake lever arm in the pic?
I dont see the cover for the outer adjuster screw either.
Rears requires you to turn the adjuster screw to retract the pistons.

From the limited pics those look like front calipers.
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post Aug 27 2015, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 27 2015, 10:22 AM) *

Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake lever arm in the pic?
I dont see the cover for the outer adjuster screw either.
Rears requires you to turn the adjuster screw to retract the pistons.

From the limited pics those look like front calipers.


They're rear 911 m-calipers, so no e-brake. Sorry, completely forgot I asked about the calipers in another thread, not this one.

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QUOTE(john77 @ Aug 27 2015, 12:27 PM) *

QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 27 2015, 10:22 AM) *

Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake lever arm in the pic?
I dont see the cover for the outer adjuster screw either.
Rears requires you to turn the adjuster screw to retract the pistons.

From the limited pics those look like front calipers.


They're rear 911 m-calipers, so no e-brake. Sorry, completely forgot I asked about the calipers in another thread, not this one.



Then you should be able to get the pistons to move using a small C-clamp.

I just rebuilt a bunch of 914 Early front calipers to install on my race car in the rear.
It is very simple and if you dont feel the need to replate (or paint) the calipers, you can rebuild a pair in an afternoon.
It takes longer to take them apart and get the pistons out then to put the new parts in and put them back on the car.
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post Aug 27 2015, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 27 2015, 12:14 PM) *

QUOTE(john77 @ Aug 27 2015, 12:27 PM) *

QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 27 2015, 10:22 AM) *

Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake lever arm in the pic?
I dont see the cover for the outer adjuster screw either.
Rears requires you to turn the adjuster screw to retract the pistons.

From the limited pics those look like front calipers.


They're rear 911 m-calipers, so no e-brake. Sorry, completely forgot I asked about the calipers in another thread, not this one.



Then you should be able to get the pistons to move using a small C-clamp.

I just rebuilt a bunch of 914 Early front calipers to install on my race car in the rear.
It is very simple and if you dont feel the need to replate (or paint) the calipers, you can rebuild a pair in an afternoon.
It takes longer to take them apart and get the pistons out then to put the new parts in and put them back on the car.


Thanks Stu. I think I'm going to go the whole way and get them replated with zinc - my friend runs a shop so he said I can throw them in with his next batch of stuff. Are the 914 fronts the same in that you need to use compressed air to get the pistons out?
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QUOTE(john77 @ Aug 27 2015, 04:47 PM) *


Thanks Stu. I think I'm going to go the whole way and get them replated with zinc - my friend runs a shop so he said I can throw them in with his next batch of stuff. Are the 914 fronts the same in that you need to use compressed air to get the pistons out?


If you want to do them yourself read the tech articles at PMBPerformance.

http://www.pmbperformance.com/brakehowto.html

I get the pistons out using a block of wood in the slot between the halves where the rotor goes.
Blow one out carefully by using paint stir sticks as spacers removing them as you go.
Once the first one pops out, put it back in gently and shim with the sticks.
Then keep going until you blow the other out.
NEVER use the air method without restricting the piston motion mechanically.
Just a couple of PSI will launch one across the garage, and you might need 100 PSI to free a stubborn piston.
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QUOTE(stugray @ Aug 27 2015, 03:56 PM) *

QUOTE(john77 @ Aug 27 2015, 04:47 PM) *


Thanks Stu. I think I'm going to go the whole way and get them replated with zinc - my friend runs a shop so he said I can throw them in with his next batch of stuff. Are the 914 fronts the same in that you need to use compressed air to get the pistons out?


If you want to do them yourself read the tech articles at PMBPerformance.

http://www.pmbperformance.com/brakehowto.html

I get the pistons out using a block of wood in the slot between the halves where the rotor goes.
Blow one out carefully by using paint stir sticks as spacers removing them as you go.
Once the first one pops out, put it back in gently and shim with the sticks.
Then keep going until you blow the other out.
NEVER use the air method without restricting the piston motion mechanically.
Just a couple of PSI will launch one across the garage, and you might need 100 PSI to free a stubborn piston.


Thanks Stu, that's an awesome write up.


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john77   Warped rotor?   Aug 8 2015, 03:28 PM
porschetub   About a month ago something in the rear of my car...   Aug 8 2015, 03:44 PM
john77   Take the caliper off and disconnent the axle and...   Aug 8 2015, 04:16 PM
porschetub   Take the caliper off and disconnent the axle an...   Aug 8 2015, 05:05 PM
PanelBilly   and I have extra axles/cv s in the classifieds if ...   Aug 8 2015, 04:19 PM
Spoke   Do you have a dial indicator gauge? This is very u...   Aug 8 2015, 04:39 PM
john77   Do you have a dial indicator gauge? This is very ...   Aug 8 2015, 08:57 PM
Spoke   Spoke, I have no idea what this is, but I want on...   Aug 8 2015, 09:17 PM
stugray   If the nut is not tighetened to full torque after ...   Aug 8 2015, 05:05 PM
porschetub   If the nut is not tighetened to full torque after...   Aug 8 2015, 06:17 PM
zambezi   Are you running the 911 parking brake shoes. If s...   Aug 8 2015, 05:38 PM
Dave_Darling   Pull the pads out and see if the noise continues. ...   Aug 8 2015, 05:54 PM
Krieger   Pull the pads out and see if the noise continues....   Aug 9 2015, 08:19 AM
mgp4591   I can see the wear pattern in your rotor from your...   Aug 8 2015, 07:07 PM
john77   This afternoon, I removed the cv joints/axle (I wa...   Aug 9 2015, 07:35 PM
Dave_Darling   The minimum thickness should be stamped on the edg...   Aug 9 2015, 09:52 PM
john77   My new dial indicator informs me the rotor is warp...   Aug 26 2015, 10:11 PM
stugray   Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake leve...   Aug 27 2015, 11:22 AM
RoadGlue   Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake lev...   Aug 27 2015, 12:23 PM
john77   Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake lev...   Aug 27 2015, 12:27 PM
RoadGlue   Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake le...   Aug 27 2015, 12:28 PM
stugray   Stupid question, but why cant I see a E-brake le...   Aug 27 2015, 01:14 PM
john77   [quote name='john77' post='2229187' date='Aug 27 ...   Aug 27 2015, 04:47 PM
stugray   Thanks Stu. I think I'm going to go the whol...   Aug 27 2015, 04:56 PM
john77   Thanks Stu. I think I'm going to go the who...   Aug 27 2015, 06:39 PM


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