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post Sep 4 2015, 05:56 AM
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here is a picture of the Altman car taken by Martin Arnaud at the 1987 - 12 hrs of Sebring. If anyone knows the whereabouts of this car please let me know.


Wow, just noticed the horizontal fan, goes with all the other trick bits on that chassis.


The Altman bros were known for there motors. Titanium factory connecting rods, flat fans, and that kinda stuff..They had a pretty large budget compared to us lowly blue collar racers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Their fiero chassis based car was a direct result of seeing mine (as mentioned elsewhere), As they always had great power, but struggled with the 911 chassis.

Bruce Jones and Bruce Jankowitz drove my Fiero based car in the 2 or 3 IMSA races it ran, while I was behind on getting my FIA license to run in IMSA. I eventually entered one race with the 3 of us driving at 6 hours of (?) Watkins Glen, but something broke and I believe we never started the race. Then early that next year I wrecked it at Summit testing in a PCA event, as Scott mentioned. The rest is SCCA GT2 history.
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post Sep 4 2015, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(gms @ Aug 23 2015, 06:09 AM) *

the illustrious poster with a Playboy Playmate has made it unforgettable.


Coincidentally, I found this while i was looking on the bird board for ideas for my 2.23L upgrade.
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post Sep 4 2015, 11:28 AM
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This came today in the mail, it's cool.


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post Sep 4 2015, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Sep 4 2015, 10:28 AM) *

This came today in the mail, it's cool.



Nice, how many millimeters are you going to have to chop out of it to "convert" it to a 904? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 4 2015, 12:22 PM
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That's a super cool model...

http://www.forum-auto.com/automobile-prati...jet756-1855.htm


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post Sep 4 2015, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Sep 4 2015, 11:10 AM) *

QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Sep 4 2015, 10:28 AM) *

This came today in the mail, it's cool.



Nice, how many millimeters are you going to have to chop out of it to "convert" it to a 904? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Damn!
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post Sep 4 2015, 12:59 PM
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Cogbill's convertible D is one of my favorite 356's, when I did the story on that car no one knew the history on it, not even Joe. I traced it to the original owner, Dr. David Helmick, who won Sebring. He took the car to Europe when he got drafted, raced it at Le Mans, and tracks all over Europe, he even took it to the Factory to have them put disc brakes on it. A very cool car!


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post Sep 4 2015, 01:02 PM
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post Sep 4 2015, 02:44 PM
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Cool story, but what does it have to do with IMSA 914s?

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post Sep 4 2015, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 4 2015, 01:44 PM) *

Cool story, but what does it have to do with IMSA 914s?

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It's one of the models in that pic from Europe, next to the 914 model like the one he received. Also P-car content, so no foul in my book.

The Cogbill 356 appears next to one of my all-time faves, the Jennings Speedster (pre-restoration?). Pretty cool that a model of the Cogbill D is sitting next to the 914 you now own, and that both are/were significant enough to have inspired models of them.
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post Sep 4 2015, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Sep 4 2015, 01:08 PM) *

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 4 2015, 01:44 PM) *

Cool story, but what does it have to do with IMSA 914s?

--DD



It's one of the models in that pic from Europe, next to the 914 model like the one he received. Also P-car content, so no foul in my book.

The Cogbill 356 appears next to one of my all-time faves, the Jennings Speedster (pre-restoration?). Pretty cool that a model of the Cogbill D is sitting next to the 914 you now own, and that both are/were significant enough to have inspired models of them.


A friend of mine sold the Jenning's Carrera Speedster awhile back for at the time record money, about $250,000, wonder what it would be worth now?
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post Sep 5 2015, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 4 2015, 01:44 PM) *

Cool story, but what does it have to do with IMSA 914s?

--DD


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Ditto, but let's stop beating around the bush here.

Adam didn't like us having a direct conversation about trying to stop him cutting up an interesting car in his thread, so now he's posting 356 crap in Glenn's 914 IMSA thread even though Glenn was super classy in his introduction.

This is not a "P-car" forum. It's frickin' 914-World. If I wanted to read about 356s I would go to bathtubs-r-us.com or wherever the heck people talk about those.

Adam from page 4 of his 904 "build" thread.
"2. If you don't like what I'm building then please get out of my sandbox."

Adam needs to take his irrelevant 914 hating drivel and go elsewhere.
He'll get no welcome from me here.

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QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Sep 4 2015, 10:28 AM) *

This came today in the mail, it's cool.


Is that so you have something to remember it by?
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post Sep 5 2015, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE(dug @ Sep 5 2015, 03:46 AM) *

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 4 2015, 01:44 PM) *

Cool story, but what does it have to do with IMSA 914s?

--DD


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Ditto, but let's stop beating around the bush here.

Adam didn't like us having a direct conversation about trying to stop him cutting up an interesting car in his thread, so now he's posting 356 crap in Glenn's 914 IMSA thread even though Glenn was super classy in his introduction.

This is not a "P-car" forum. It's frickin' 914-World. If I wanted to read about 356s I would go to bathtubs-r-us.com or wherever the heck people talk about those.

Adam from page 4 of his 904 "build" thread.
"2. If you don't like what I'm building then please get out of my sandbox."

Adam needs to take his irrelevant 914 hating drivel and go elsewhere.
He'll get no welcome from me here.

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Yep, just a Drama Queen! I can't believe that he is even posting in this Thread since he is destroying History.
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post Sep 5 2015, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE(gms @ Aug 24 2015, 10:00 AM) *

here is a picture of the Altman car taken by Martin Arnaud at the 1987 - 12 hrs of Sebring. If anyone knows the whereabouts of this car please let me know.


This is a cool car! Love the modifications and efforts required....

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post Sep 5 2015, 09:00 AM
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This is from an email Bruce Anderson sent about the 2nd Garretson Enterprise IMSA racer:
"We did engine and chassis development for that car when Walt and Terry owned it, but we didn't have anything to do with the body work... Dave did that.

Bruce Anderson
one of the owners and General Manager of Garretson Enterprises"

a picture of Bruce looking the car over years later
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QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Sep 4 2015, 12:28 PM) *

This came today in the mail, it's cool.

This whole 904 body on an IMSA 914 thread reminds me of the documentary “Banksy Does New York” that I saw about the British graffiti artist named Banksy coming to NYC and every day for a month he would do one of his paintings or sculptures somewhere in the city. The word would get out and everyone would hurry to the location to see the work of art. The reason they had to hurry was because there were people who enjoy shitty on everything others covet and enjoy who would race to the site to deface the Banksy work. The thing that shocked me is that some of the people in the crowd would cheer as the vandal was destroying the artwork. Does this sound familiar?
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post Sep 5 2015, 02:52 PM
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You know, I woke up this morning and read all of this bizarre ranting coming from a couple of you guys. It's not a p-car forum?

I guess for a few of you guys teener is really a good term, because you have some real growing up to do to be in the Porsche world.

But the good news is I didn't give this a 2nd thought as I showed up for a packed open house, full of all Porsches, even some 914's. We even had a celebrity, Frank Serpico showed up, how cool is that? And he did confirm to me that Al Pacino played him better than himself in the movie.

I posted history on a very cool car that was pictured in this thread, one that I did a lot of research on and thought I would share it with the group but I guess you guys don't want to know about anything built before your cars, because who would want to know about Porsche history?

Grow up guys, or remain teeners, but you sound really childish.


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QUOTE(Unobtanium-inc @ Sep 5 2015, 03:52 PM) *

You know, I woke up this morning and read all of this bizarre ranting coming from a couple of you guys. It's not a p-car forum?

FYI - There is a forum named "the Sandbox" for all the off-topic threads.

I am relieved because I thought you were going to say it was the framework for your new project...a Cayenne on a SCCA national championship 356.

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We even had a celebrity, Frank Serpico...

Frank Serpico did NOT race a 914 in IMSA so again not real relevant to this thread.

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You're calling us childish for defending the clearly stated purpose of this board and thread while you are shamelessly plugging your business while pretending to care about Porsche history?!?

You've now posted more photos in this thread that are off topic than all the photos from all other posters.

Your accusation that we don't want to know about Porsche history is particulary hilarious given that Glenn created this thread to specifically discuss 914 IMSA history that he has spent decades researching, while you just regurgitated an old magazine article. Thanks for your profound teaching.

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