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> jim kelly's 1975 914 suby build, water pump housing and header interference ???
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post Jul 27 2017, 09:16 AM
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thanks guys for chiming in, very appreciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

yes, seems i will have to change to a turbo water pump. still this will be a hose pretty dang close to a exhaust manifold.


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post Jul 27 2017, 09:31 AM
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i'll size up my axle like this member did.

and use dutchman.

914 cv wheel end and suby cv trans end.

nice a dry too, no grease (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Jul 27 2017, 03:56 PM
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what the hell, i added wheels, not sure my oil pan won't touch the ground (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

i don't know about you guys, but when i pull an engine, i drop the car down low with wheels off, undo engine/trans mounts, a let eng/trans rest on furniture dolly, THEN, i lift car up crazy high, so i can roll assy out from under car.

i know some lift engine into lifted car.


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post Jul 27 2017, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jul 27 2017, 02:56 PM) *

what the hell, i added wheels, not sure my oil pan won't touch the ground (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

i don't know about you guys, but when i pull an engine, i drop the car down low with wheels off, undo engine/trans mounts, a let eng/trans rest on furniture dolly, THEN, i lift car up crazy high, so i can roll assy out from under car.

i know some lift engine into lifted car.


Better put some gussets on those wheel brackets... Those wheels are going to fold up pretty easy.
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post Jul 27 2017, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jul 27 2017, 08:16 AM) *

thanks guys for chiming in, very appreciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

yes, seems i will have to change to a turbo water pump. still this will be a hose pretty dang close to a exhaust manifold.



That looks like it would be easy to either build a custom housing or rotate possibly 90deg on either one to move it away from the exhaust. I say 3/16" plate, template, drill holes and cut out shape, then weld in some tubing in your desired direction. Plane the metal flat when your done and powdercoat and add gasket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 27 2017, 04:31 PM
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gussets, fuck, shit. should have used 1/4 thickness vs 1/8.

though i don't see a way around using a turbo pump and i don't mind as long at it is simply a bolt on swap.


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post Jul 27 2017, 05:53 PM
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alright. i redid redonedid the wheel mounts and used 1/4 angle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

short welds mostly bottom to top, but i prefer welding right to left, horizontally, sitting comfortably, with hand supported (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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Jim,

I didn't use the stock header. I used an aftermarket header. You did track down the manufacturer and post a picture of the header in my thread. It was post 386. It was HDG Performance.

I am not sure if it is less expensive and easier to change the water pump or buy a new header?

Ray
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post Aug 2 2017, 05:22 AM
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i decided against an aftermarket header in favor of a subaru oem turbo header. for compactness and $9.99 on ebay + $25 shipping.

but now i need to change water pump to turbo style also.

this at least will force me to replace old water pump (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

thanks
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post Aug 2 2017, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jul 27 2017, 03:16 PM) *

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Jul 27 2017, 02:56 PM) *

what the hell, i added wheels, not sure my oil pan won't touch the ground (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

i don't know about you guys, but when i pull an engine, i drop the car down low with wheels off, undo engine/trans mounts, a let eng/trans rest on furniture dolly, THEN, i lift car up crazy high, so i can roll assy out from under car.

i know some lift engine into lifted car.


Better put some gussets on those wheel brackets... Those wheels are going to fold up pretty easy.

I see 6 other places that I would add gusset's. How much does that thing weigh, Jim?
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31 LBS. what u thinkin 76-914?

and here is a pic that shows the turbo water pump with my header better. amazing clearance with turbo water pump. maybe 1.5"


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Looking good Jim!

You might already be planning on it, but I would spend a little time with an angle grinder to take down the sharp points just to protect yourself. It sucks getting cut on a sharp edge when you're working on something else entirely.
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you know, the guys here at work have been gettin on my ass about that too. seems like you guys might be right about SHARP EDGES.

i did gouge the rear bumper on my honda fit the other day when removing it from my car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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you know, the guys here at work have been gettin on my ass about that too. seems like you guys might be right about SHARP EDGES.

i did gouge the rear bumper on my honda fit the other day when removing it from my car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


The bumper gouge sucks. Yeah, I've got a few scars from sharp plate edges so I'm always extra cautious.
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31 LBS. what u thinkin 76-914?

and here is a pic that shows the turbo water pump with my header better. amazing clearance with turbo water pump. maybe 1.5"

Just curious. Wanted to compare our weights. You still thinking about mfg cradles? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I'd starve to death making these things for a living. Did you track the materials cost? I had about $160 in materials but I used 4130 which ain't cheap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 2 2017, 09:24 AM
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i think i was about $50 in matls, mild steel, mostly 1/8" and some 1/4".

shipping is the KILLER for a buyer. fedex and ups charge about $170 or so, regardless if its going 6hrs away or 16 hrs away.

i've only made 2 so far, one for myself (1st one) and sold one.

got to find a way around high shipping cost. size is about 40x30x8 at 31lbs if i recall correctly.
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fwiw..

Scott <scott@renegadehybrids.com>
6:59 PM (41 minutes ago)
to me, travis
Yes, I have the adapters for a 901/914 transaxle output flange to a 100mm (86mm x 8mm six bolt threaded pattern) CV joint. $100 each. Thanks for asking.
Sincerely,
Scott >>> Renegade Hybrids
www.renegadehybrids.com
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So 400 for a set of 4. Or 200 for a pair if you do it like I did. Not that bad.
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see andyrew's post #498 and his whole awesome thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...4780&st=400
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i think i was about $50 in matls, mild steel, mostly 1/8" and some 1/4".

shipping is the KILLER for a buyer. fedex and ups charge about $170 or so, regardless if its going 6hrs away or 16 hrs away.

i've only made 2 so far, one for myself (1st one) and sold one.

got to find a way around high shipping cost. size is about 40x30x8 at 31lbs if i recall correctly.

When I bought mine, it was shipped from Ohio for $55. FedEx
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