Door braces and rotisserie, Looking to get setup for working on my build-off |
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Door braces and rotisserie, Looking to get setup for working on my build-off |
boxsterfan |
Oct 10 2015, 05:43 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
What are people using to build a good set of door braces for their car? Is this off-the-shelf or putting some parts together from the store (Harbor Freight?)
Also, for a rotisserie setup, I saw a video for building one. I'll be a first time welder (save for that high school shop class many, many, many moons ago). Is that something reasonable to build for a first time welder? Otherwise, I guess I'll post in the WTB ads. |
914Sixer |
Oct 10 2015, 05:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Door braces are usually square tube with some sort of adjustment. Rotisseries can be as simple or a complicated as you want. You can start with two 1000 lb engine stands from Harbor Freight and go from there or build the cage as shown in Restoration Designs build. Tangerine Racing offers a bracing kit and a rotisserie.
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injunmort |
Oct 10 2015, 06:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
racer chris offers a great set already done, easier than making them yourself
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JoeDees |
Oct 10 2015, 06:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-November 14 From: Northern Kentucky Member No.: 18,106 Region Association: None |
The biggest/only advantage to buying a rotisserie is that the prefabbed models have jacks built into them and often come with door braces.
I bought mine premade. My wife convinced me to do so since the parts would be $600 and the premade w/ jacks and door braces was on sale for $1000. $400 to buy parts would have been nice, but this thing is sweet. |
boxsterfan |
Oct 10 2015, 06:38 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
The biggest/only advantage to buying a rotisserie is that the prefabbed models have jacks built into them and often come with door braces. I bought mine premade. My wife convinced me to do so since the parts would be $600 and the premade w/ jacks and door braces was on sale for $1000. $400 to buy parts would have been nice, but this thing is sweet. Where did you get yours? |
JoeDees |
Oct 10 2015, 06:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-November 14 From: Northern Kentucky Member No.: 18,106 Region Association: None |
Mine is a Derek Weaver, super heavy duty.
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trojanhorsepower |
Oct 10 2015, 07:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 861 Joined: 21-September 03 From: Marion, NC Member No.: 1,179 Region Association: None |
I think a rotisserie is a great project for a first time welder if you welder is big enough to handle the relatively large metal. I build mine with the welder at work because my little Lincoln 135 just did not get hot enough. I guess cutting the material might be an issue, but you could probably use a sawzall.
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toolguy |
Oct 10 2015, 07:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,267 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
I've built a couple, plans on around $250- $300 in material. . wheels on EBay and get larger rather than smaller as they are much easier to roll. .
Here is the last one I did that has a boat trailer cable winch [don't laugh, it works great] for raising one end at a time. . moves from post to post. only thing missing from picture is a link bar that slides down the middle and ties the end sections together. Short story is it took a full day to weld up and 3 hours to machine pivot shafts. . Probably be cheaper to buy pre-made or a used on Attached image(s) |
boxsterfan |
Oct 10 2015, 08:37 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
I was googling around for rotisseries and you just have to LOL at this:
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mgp4591 |
Oct 10 2015, 09:33 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,372 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I was googling around for rotisseries and you just have to LOL at this: I think I built that Revell model when I was 12 or so... and didn't need a rotisserie to do it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
MichiganMat |
Oct 11 2015, 10:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 14-June 06 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 6,222 Region Association: Northern California |
I made mine from 2 HF engine stands. You'll need to cut the thing apart and extend the bases and the top, but its a well-known mod. Do a search, a bunch of people have made them now.
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Vysoc |
Oct 11 2015, 01:02 PM
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Vysoc Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 27-August 09 From: Young Harris, Georgia Member No.: 10,737 Region Association: South East States |
I have some pictures on my Build-Off Thread of mine, Yellow Sub/Vysoc.
I built it myself, with the plan from Blueskymotorsports.com he is now out of business but his website still has a link to a plan to build a nice rotisserie. If you have welding skill you can do this. If your car is a 75 or 76 you can modify the bumper adapter to attach to the 4 shocks that attach the Big Ugly Bumpers on the 75's & 76's. The rotis is a great tool. Good Luck, Vysoc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
obscurity |
Oct 11 2015, 01:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
For adjustment on the door braces I found a few huge turnbuckles with straight weldable ends on McMasterCarr.
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budk |
Oct 12 2015, 06:01 AM
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Yes! It's a Bumblebee! Group: Members Posts: 678 Joined: 24-July 10 From: Hickory, PA Member No.: 11,970 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
For adjustment on the door braces I found a few huge turnbuckles with straight weldable ends on McMasterCarr. Another option is to go to somewhere like Tractor Supply and buy a Category 0 toplink arm for a 3pt hitch. Cut the arm in half and add a piece of tubing, square is preferred but I used round, between the ends. This gives you a left hand threaded end and a right hand threaded end so that you can easily adjust the door gap by turning the brace. You would need 2 arms at about $10 a piece plus 2 pieces of tubing so figure another $15. Cut and weld and you got 2 door braces for $35. McMaster Carr sells bushings that you can use in the ends to match up with the bolts you are using if you want to go that r route or you could weld a couple right-sized washers on the ends. Good luck. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
mbseto |
Oct 12 2015, 06:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
This is an extremely well done and well documented set of door braces:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1401718 |
914work |
Oct 12 2015, 10:07 AM
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This is an extremely well done and well documented set of door braces: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1401718 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but he went nuts on those things! there is an similar design (but simpler) in the "home made tools" thread BTW the comical pic above features an "Autotwirler" rotiss. |
mbseto |
Oct 13 2015, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
This is an extremely well done and well documented set of door braces: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1401718 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but he went nuts on those things! there is an similar design (but simpler) in the "home made tools" thread BTW the comical pic above features an "Autotwirler" rotiss. It's certainly one end of the spectrum. I admire them, but did not build mine to this degree. If you know you're going to do more than one car, or if you just want to see what they need to be able to do, it's a great reference. |
jmitro |
Oct 13 2015, 07:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 23-July 15 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 18,986 Region Association: None |
It's certainly one end of the spectrum. I admire them, but did not build mine to this degree. If you know you're going to do more than one car, or if you just want to see what they need to be able to do, it's a great reference. I agree. They are awesome, but...... I'd rather spend my limited time actually working on the car, not building complicated accessories. Mine are simply bar tube welded to simple plates that attach at the door hinges and upper seatbelt post. |
930cabman |
Oct 9 2023, 01:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,062 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Bringing it back from 2015 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
Where is the prefered locations for the door brace front? door hinge plates? Where is the prefered location for the door brace rear? strike plate or seat belt threaded hole? |
bkrantz |
Oct 9 2023, 06:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,763 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Bringing it back from 2015 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Where is the prefered locations for the door brace front? door hinge plates? Where is the prefered location for the door brace rear? strike plate or seat belt threaded hole? Depends on if you want to keep doors on, or be able to mount them when you want. If so, you can use the seat belt shoulder mount in rear, but need to weld the front directly to the tub, usually on the side member somewhere. |
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