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Body question, What would you do? |
skline |
Mar 9 2005, 02:54 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Ok, I am stripping the paint off the car along with all the bondo. I have the tools to do the body work correctly. The small dents I will use my stud gun to weld on and pull the dents out. There is one dent in the back where there was at least an inch thick of bondo to fill a whole type dent. Here are a few pictures of the dent.
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skline |
Mar 9 2005, 02:54 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
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skline |
Mar 9 2005, 02:57 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
My question is this, should I try to pull this dent out and fix it? Or seeing the picture below, would you just replace the panel?
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McMark |
Mar 9 2005, 03:01 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Go get a cheap-o hammer and dolly set and hammer it out. It ain't that bad.
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jim912928 |
Mar 9 2005, 03:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Well, I'd hammer it out and see how close you can get it. If that comes out fine...and you only need alittle filler then you are good to go. If it comes out looking like crap...then weld in the new one. So, doesn't hurt to try to hammer it out!
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TravisNeff |
Mar 9 2005, 03:21 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hammer that dent out. You'll spend more time smoothing out your cut lines after you weld than just working that dent out
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balljoint |
Mar 9 2005, 03:24 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,000 Joined: 6-April 04 Member No.: 1,897 Region Association: None |
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John Kelly |
Mar 9 2005, 03:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Moclips WA. Member No.: 640 |
I would use a hammer with a crosspeen like in the picture...not the big one, the little one. Back up the outside of the dent with a flat dolly, hit from inside. Take your time...lots of medium blows are better than a few hard ones. you could use the claw end of a carpenters hammer...might have to blunt the tips a bit first.
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Mrs. K |
Mar 9 2005, 03:55 PM
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Grieve we must, but celebrate a great life! Group: Birthday Fairy Posts: 7,513 Joined: 6-June 04 From: Long Beach, CA Member No.: 2,166 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Sounds like a very reasonable direction. Lisa (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) |
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Lou W |
Mar 9 2005, 04:12 PM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
Don't (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) Do (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)
Save the panel for your next project. |
skline |
Mar 9 2005, 04:23 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Well first off, there wont be another project, second off the pictures dont really show you all that is damaged. The entire first picture is a dent or ripple. That whole area is mashed and dented. The original repair, was drilled holes and pulled and filled. I seriously think it would be easier to just cut and patch the new panel in. I can hammer and dolly for a week on this and never get it straight. Maybe I am just impatient. I want it done now. I will try and see how it comes out, but if it doesnt go the way I want, I am taking the body saw to it and just putting the new one on.
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Aaron Cox |
Mar 9 2005, 04:27 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
heat beat and repeat.......
if you patch/section in a new piece.... let me know how it goes.... |
Lou W |
Mar 9 2005, 04:32 PM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
No more projects? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) |
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skline |
Mar 9 2005, 04:38 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Nope, no more after these are done. This one is really burning me out. My back is aching from stripping paint and now it will be even worse from the hammer and dolly. I am getting to old for this. Maybe I am just out of shape? I am reminded why people pay so much to have this done. It is a lot like work. John, that is one big ass hammer you got there. Is that for really stubborn dents? Maybe I should just flare this car. Hmmm.
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Type 4 |
Mar 9 2005, 04:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 412 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Costa Mesa Calif. Member No.: 2,866 |
Duct Tape Velcro and Super glue.
You can cut out the damaged area like I was telling you last night by doing the Cut and Peel, then weld the Butt joint. |
Aaron Cox |
Mar 9 2005, 04:42 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
flare it to fit 225's! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif)
you got me thinkin there partner..... |
spunone |
Mar 9 2005, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 945 Joined: 6-April 04 From: Anaheim CA Member No.: 1,901 Region Association: Southern California |
Scott I'll be here till about 5:00 if you still need the metal (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)
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skline |
Mar 9 2005, 05:33 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
I got some company right now, I will call you here shortly.
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jwalters |
Mar 9 2005, 05:50 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
I have seen the old salts do this trick--heat it to cherry red, then throw a sopping wet towel on it, the metal has a memory to it and will want to return to normal--
I saw this done on a 56 buick with a caved in roof--it took about 4 times and it returned virtually to original... But I don't have that kinda experience under my belt. |
John Kelly |
Mar 10 2005, 08:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Moclips WA. Member No.: 640 |
That will work on occasion, but you should never heat sheet metal to red hot unless you are welding or want to shrink and work harden the area. You can, and should shrink using far less heat (blue at the most) only quench when the metal is not red or you will make the metal more dificult to work.
John www.ghiaspecialties.com |
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