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Push Rod Guide Wire...is it a must have on engine?, Push Rod Guide Wire in Engine |
0396 |
Nov 6 2015, 05:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
Need to tap into the brain trust.
I was just looking at a YouTube video on a type 4 engine assembly. I noticed that person attached a wire to the valve assembly. I looked at the F/S section and noticed that there's set for sale. Question, is that a monitory to install guide the push rods? Thanks for the education. |
dlee6204 |
Nov 6 2015, 06:02 PM
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Howdy Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
It's a retaining feature for the pushrod tubes. It holds them in place and keeps them from wiggling loose and causing oil leaks.
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TheCabinetmaker |
Nov 6 2015, 06:15 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
They are a must. The tube will back out and make an oil slick of your trans, rear of the car, and the windshield. Yes, windshield. The one on the car behind you.
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0396 |
Nov 6 2015, 07:00 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
It's a retaining feature for the pushrod tubes. It holds them in place and keeps them from wiggling loose and causing oil leaks. Thanks for the reply, I also called AA ...since I bought there cylinder with JEs for their comments. They mentioned as above, but in the 25 years of buildings type 4, they have never seen any back out. I mentioned that push rod tubes with new seals were a very tight during the install. Any other comments? Thanks in advance. |
Mblizzard |
Nov 6 2015, 07:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
I have seen them back out! If you think about the fact that it is just an interference fit you know that with all of the heat cycles an engine goes through it is just a matter of time before they become loose and leak at a minimum.
The engineers that designed the Type 4 put them there for a reason and I am sure they were smarter than most of us! |
r_towle |
Nov 6 2015, 07:29 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
They will back out.
I have seen set screws run up from underneath on large motors with custom rocker assemblies, but in the end, you need some way to keep them in place. Rich |
Dave_Darling |
Nov 6 2015, 08:00 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,985 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
They mentioned as above, but in the 25 years of buildings type 4, they have never seen any back out. They're talking out their *ss. If they'd been building without the retaining wires for 25 years, they'd have seen a whole bunch of them back out. Or maybe the tubes have backed out, but they've told people to pound sand if anyone had the temerity to complain? That wouldn't be out of character for them... --DD (who apparently took his "grumpy pills" today!) |
Elliot Cannon |
Nov 6 2015, 08:00 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
Wire? Use this stuff. High temp silly cone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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ConeDodger |
Nov 6 2015, 08:02 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,584 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
My last TypeIV build I bought them new at the P dealer.
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Dave_Darling |
Nov 6 2015, 10:05 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,985 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
You need a little more in there, Elliott. I only see a few places where there are blobs that can break off and wind up plugging up one of your oil passages--you want lots of those blobs so you can be absolutely sure to lunch the engine! --DD |
0396 |
Nov 6 2015, 11:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
To all, thanks for the education. Looks like its best to install them while the engine is on the engine stand.
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0396 |
Nov 6 2015, 11:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
To all, thanks for the education. Looks like its best to install them while the engine is on the engine stand.
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brant |
Nov 6 2015, 11:32 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It's a retaining feature for the pushrod tubes. It holds them in place and keeps them from wiggling loose and causing oil leaks. Thanks for the reply, I also called AA ...since I bought there cylinder with JEs for their comments. They mentioned as above, but in the 25 years of buildings type 4, they have never seen any back out. I mentioned that push rod tubes with new seals were a very tight during the install. Any other comments? Thanks in advance. Consider the source Ha.... Really. AA Cracks me up...... |
porschetub |
Nov 7 2015, 12:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,698 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
They mentioned as above, but in the 25 years of buildings type 4, they have never seen any back out. They're talking out their *ss. If they'd been building without the retaining wires for 25 years, they'd have seen a whole bunch of them back out. Or maybe the tubes have backed out, but they've told people to pound sand if anyone had the temerity to complain? That wouldn't be out of character for them... --DD (who apparently took his "grumpy pills" today!) No Dave ,fair call ,sorry but anyone asking them for advise should rethink,heaps more clever members on here offering better besides,jeez for starters VW have never put parts in an engine you don't need (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . |
porschetub |
Nov 7 2015, 01:01 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,698 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
My last TypeIV build I bought them new at the P dealer. From a "P" dealer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) OMG |
rhodyguy |
Nov 7 2015, 08:47 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,079 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Tight confines with that barbed fitting and the intake manifold.
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