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alfadoc |
Nov 12 2015, 03:33 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 6-November 15 From: Lynchburg, VA Member No.: 19,340 Region Association: None |
Posted last week that I was considering buying a local car. It will go into dry storage awaiting restoration. Thought I'd share a couple of pics.
Stuck a battery in it. No starter engagement and no fuel pump whir. Maybe I just need to jump the seatbelt relay. Fingers crossed. It's not home yet, so I haven't really had a chance to wrench on it. Really checked out the floors, and they are absolutely solid in passenger compartment and trunks. The battery tray is crusty and there are a couple of little bubbles in the adjacent side panel. Everything I can see and feel below the battery tray is solid. No rust on the battery tray support. Under the jack points there is an area about 1" long where the seams come together that you can stick a screwdriver through. otherwise solid. It does have this one odd rust area on top of the rear quarter. Likely the result of a poor bondo job. Anyway, I can't wait to get this in out of the elements. My first 914. I don't think I did too badly for $1500. Oh, and bonus, it has Konis and a Bursch street exhaust with a cat delete. |
Racer |
Nov 12 2015, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Congrats!
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veekry9 |
Nov 12 2015, 03:45 PM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
The car of the future,impact bumpers design to meet the then new standards.
Aiy,that's a lot of work,but ok.A bodyman you must become,or farm it out. The paint code looks like Bahia Red,it will keep for a few years and tears. Having fun is it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
SirAndy |
Nov 12 2015, 03:58 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Under the jack points there is an area about 1" long where the seams come together that you can stick a screwdriver through. Nootherwise solid. It does have this one odd rust area on top of the rear quarter. Likely the result of a poor bondo job. Sorry to be a bit harsh here but both of your assessments are likely to be false. - If you have a 1" spot around your jack post where you can stick a screwdriver through you WILL have a lot more rust in that long and most likely also in the floorpan and rear firewall section close to that spot. It's there, you just haven't found it yet. - The spot on the back fender is well known and unfortunately that means the whole section is completely rotted. There's a cavity that was sealed by the factory with foam and seam sealer. Once the sealer is compromised, the foam will soak up water and it will rust from the inside out. You'll need to replace the whole rear section of the fender and most likely also parts of the trunk wall. I would also check the other side more closely. Remove the foam from the inside and look for rust there too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
mepstein |
Nov 12 2015, 04:08 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,279 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) once you go over your car with someone who knows 914's you will find a lot more rust.
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alfadoc |
Nov 12 2015, 04:52 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 6-November 15 From: Lynchburg, VA Member No.: 19,340 Region Association: None |
Well, I guess I'm in for an education and a lot of work. At one point I swore I was never buying another car that wasn't galvanized. What happened to that?!
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Chris H. |
Nov 12 2015, 05:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,031 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
You never know what you'll find. Just have to dig in and take the rockers off, interior out, etc to see the extent of it.
FYI if you still have fuel injection the fuel pump will not run until the starter is engaged (1.8L L-Jet). Check the fuel lines before you try to start it up. Fuel pressure is fairly high. Don't want any fires. Your car is a '75 so the color is either Malaga Red or Scarlet Red. Looks like Malaga in the un-faded areas. Have fun with it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
jor |
Nov 12 2015, 05:30 PM
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Just happy to be here. Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 28-July 14 From: LA Member No.: 17,693 Region Association: Southern California |
Under the jack points there is an area about 1" long where the seams come together that you can stick a screwdriver through. Nootherwise solid. It does have this one odd rust area on top of the rear quarter. Likely the result of a poor bondo job. Sorry to be a bit harsh here but both of your assessments are likely to be false. - If you have a 1" spot around your jack post where you can stick a screwdriver through you WILL have a lot more rust in that long and most likely also in the floorpan and rear firewall section close to that spot. It's there, you just haven't found it yet. - The spot on the back fender is well known and unfortunately that means the whole section is completely rotted. There's a cavity that was sealed by the factory with foam and seam sealer. Once the sealer is compromised, the foam will soak up water and it will rust from the inside out. You'll need to replace the whole rear section of the fender and most likely also parts of the trunk wall. I would also check the other side more closely. Remove the foam from the inside and look for rust there too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Sir Andy's right, but there is hope. Well, some hope at least. My 914 had the same 1" of rust under the jack point on the driver's side and, expecting the worst, I found that the rust, miraculously, was limited to that spot. It wasn't in the long and it didn't get into floorpans (under the tar, which hides rust) or into the firewall. That's really rare, but it could be possible on your car too. The only way to tell is after disassembly. I hope that you have the same luck (or better) than I had! That rear panel, though, doesn't look promising at all. Enjoy your purchase! |
Porschef |
Nov 12 2015, 07:20 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Jeez Andy, what a buzzkill! WTH? Couldn't you at least have waited till he got it home before dropping the bad news? Anyone buying a 914 for the first time deserves at least 24 hrs of bliss before reality sets in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)
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ThePaintedMan |
Nov 12 2015, 07:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
Those seats look interesting... not Scheels, but nice bolsters.
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PlantMan |
Nov 12 2015, 07:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 14-May 14 From: Mission Viejo Member No.: 17,352 Region Association: Southern California |
Congrats! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
Unfortunately everything that the members here say about the rust is true! Regardless, it is still fun!!! |
wndsnd |
Nov 12 2015, 07:44 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Jeez Andy, what a buzzkill! WTH? Couldn't you at least have waited till he got it home before dropping the bad news? Anyone buying a 914 for the first time deserves at least 24 hrs of bliss before reality sets in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
bandjoey |
Nov 12 2015, 09:14 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Commmmon Guys. It has a right hand mirror and a cassette player. What's a little rust?
Congrats on the car. You will learn a lot, be a better man (or lady) after the car is up and running. Yes, find someone in your area to look the car over and give you a list of things to do in order of importance. Drive it. Then the repairs look minor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/red914.jpg) |
hot_shoe914 |
Nov 12 2015, 09:22 PM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,802 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
Take it down to ScottyB in Richmond, he (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) rusty 914s.
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alfadoc |
Nov 12 2015, 09:43 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 6-November 15 From: Lynchburg, VA Member No.: 19,340 Region Association: None |
Thanks everybody. And you know, not my first rodeo. Wrenched Italian cars for a living for many years, and British before that. Bought the first Porsche 10 years ago; been driving a 944 daily during that time. I'm excited for this project. Good group here, makes the experience so much better. I'd never have survived a 944 daily without the good folks on Pelican. Makes a big difference to have so much collective experience.
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76-914 |
Nov 13 2015, 08:57 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,504 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) and enjoy your project. FWIW, my 2nd 914's rust was isolated to the R rear trunk area and firewall. Thought I'd find more in between those 2 points but I didn't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Andyrew |
Nov 13 2015, 10:13 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
You've got a great start!
Rust will be your biggest issue. I suggest tearing the engine out and taking a look at these items before you continue. Repair as needed immediately since your enthusiasm is high right now. I just did a quick rust repair similar to the car you are describing. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2255525 I spent less than 20 hours repairing this in a manner befitting a driver. |
whitetwinturbo |
Nov 13 2015, 10:35 AM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
...........where is that "foam" in the rear that can be torn out to check for water/rust? |
SirAndy |
Nov 13 2015, 12:06 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
...........where is that "foam" in the rear that can be torn out to check for water/rust? See that large rust spot on his back fender? The foam is right behind that in the cavity above the tail light. Remove the rear wheel, get a good flash light and have a close look at the foam and sealer. If the sealer looks cracked, it's a good idea to remove all the foam and sealer and clean out the rust. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
whitetwinturbo |
Nov 13 2015, 01:25 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
...........where is that "foam" in the rear that can be torn out to check for water/rust? See that large rust spot on his back fender? The foam is right behind that in the cavity above the tail light. Remove the rear wheel, get a good flash light and have a close look at the foam and sealer. If the sealer looks cracked, it's a good idea to remove all the foam and sealer and clean out the rust. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Thanks for the tip..... |
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