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post Nov 12 2015, 03:33 PM
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Posted last week that I was considering buying a local car. It will go into dry storage awaiting restoration. Thought I'd share a couple of pics.

Stuck a battery in it. No starter engagement and no fuel pump whir. Maybe I just need to jump the seatbelt relay. Fingers crossed. It's not home yet, so I haven't really had a chance to wrench on it.

Really checked out the floors, and they are absolutely solid in passenger compartment and trunks. The battery tray is crusty and there are a couple of little bubbles in the adjacent side panel. Everything I can see and feel below the battery tray is solid. No rust on the battery tray support.

Under the jack points there is an area about 1" long where the seams come together that you can stick a screwdriver through. otherwise solid. It does have this one odd rust area on top of the rear quarter. Likely the result of a poor bondo job. Anyway, I can't wait to get this in out of the elements. My first 914. I don't think I did too badly for $1500. Oh, and bonus, it has Konis and a Bursch street exhaust with a cat delete.

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post Nov 12 2015, 03:37 PM
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post Nov 12 2015, 03:45 PM
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The car of the future,impact bumpers design to meet the then new standards.
Aiy,that's a lot of work,but ok.A bodyman you must become,or farm it out.
The paint code looks like Bahia Red,it will keep for a few years and tears.
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post Nov 12 2015, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(alfadoc @ Nov 12 2015, 01:33 PM) *
Under the jack points there is an area about 1" long where the seams come together that you can stick a screwdriver through.
otherwise solid.
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QUOTE(alfadoc @ Nov 12 2015, 01:33 PM) *

It does have this one odd rust area on top of the rear quarter.
Likely the result of a poor bondo job.
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Sorry to be a bit harsh here but both of your assessments are likely to be false.

- If you have a 1" spot around your jack post where you can stick a screwdriver through you WILL have a lot more rust in that long and most likely also in the floorpan and rear firewall section close to that spot.
It's there, you just haven't found it yet.

- The spot on the back fender is well known and unfortunately that means the whole section is completely rotted.
There's a cavity that was sealed by the factory with foam and seam sealer. Once the sealer is compromised, the foam will soak up water and it will rust from the inside out. You'll need to replace the whole rear section of the fender and most likely also parts of the trunk wall.
I would also check the other side more closely. Remove the foam from the inside and look for rust there too.

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post Nov 12 2015, 04:08 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) once you go over your car with someone who knows 914's you will find a lot more rust.
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post Nov 12 2015, 04:52 PM
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Well, I guess I'm in for an education and a lot of work. At one point I swore I was never buying another car that wasn't galvanized. What happened to that?!
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post Nov 12 2015, 05:08 PM
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You never know what you'll find. Just have to dig in and take the rockers off, interior out, etc to see the extent of it.

FYI if you still have fuel injection the fuel pump will not run until the starter is engaged (1.8L L-Jet). Check the fuel lines before you try to start it up. Fuel pressure is fairly high. Don't want any fires. Your car is a '75 so the color is either Malaga Red or Scarlet Red. Looks like Malaga in the un-faded areas.

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post Nov 12 2015, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 12 2015, 02:58 PM) *

QUOTE(alfadoc @ Nov 12 2015, 01:33 PM) *
Under the jack points there is an area about 1" long where the seams come together that you can stick a screwdriver through.
otherwise solid.
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QUOTE(alfadoc @ Nov 12 2015, 01:33 PM) *

It does have this one odd rust area on top of the rear quarter.
Likely the result of a poor bondo job.
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Sorry to be a bit harsh here but both of your assessments are likely to be false.

- If you have a 1" spot around your jack post where you can stick a screwdriver through you WILL have a lot more rust in that long and most likely also in the floorpan and rear firewall section close to that spot.
It's there, you just haven't found it yet.

- The spot on the back fender is well known and unfortunately that means the whole section is completely rotted.
There's a cavity that was sealed by the factory with foam and seam sealer. Once the sealer is compromised, the foam will soak up water and it will rust from the inside out. You'll need to replace the whole rear section of the fender and most likely also parts of the trunk wall.
I would also check the other side more closely. Remove the foam from the inside and look for rust there too.

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Sir Andy's right, but there is hope. Well, some hope at least. My 914 had the same 1" of rust under the jack point on the driver's side and, expecting the worst, I found that the rust, miraculously, was limited to that spot. It wasn't in the long and it didn't get into floorpans (under the tar, which hides rust) or into the firewall. That's really rare, but it could be possible on your car too. The only way to tell is after disassembly. I hope that you have the same luck (or better) than I had!

That rear panel, though, doesn't look promising at all.

Enjoy your purchase!
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post Nov 12 2015, 07:20 PM
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Jeez Andy, what a buzzkill! WTH? Couldn't you at least have waited till he got it home before dropping the bad news? Anyone buying a 914 for the first time deserves at least 24 hrs of bliss before reality sets in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)
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post Nov 12 2015, 07:22 PM
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Those seats look interesting... not Scheels, but nice bolsters.
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post Nov 12 2015, 07:31 PM
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Congrats! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)

Unfortunately everything that the members here say about the rust is true!
Regardless, it is still fun!!!
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post Nov 12 2015, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(Porschef @ Nov 12 2015, 08:20 PM) *

Jeez Andy, what a buzzkill! WTH? Couldn't you at least have waited till he got it home before dropping the bad news? Anyone buying a 914 for the first time deserves at least 24 hrs of bliss before reality sets in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)



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post Nov 12 2015, 09:14 PM
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Commmmon Guys. It has a right hand mirror and a cassette player. What's a little rust?
Congrats on the car. You will learn a lot, be a better man (or lady) after the car is up and running. Yes, find someone in your area to look the car over and give you a list of things to do in order of importance. Drive it. Then the repairs look minor.

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post Nov 12 2015, 09:22 PM
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Take it down to ScottyB in Richmond, he (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) rusty 914s.
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post Nov 12 2015, 09:43 PM
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Thanks everybody. And you know, not my first rodeo. Wrenched Italian cars for a living for many years, and British before that. Bought the first Porsche 10 years ago; been driving a 944 daily during that time. I'm excited for this project. Good group here, makes the experience so much better. I'd never have survived a 944 daily without the good folks on Pelican. Makes a big difference to have so much collective experience.
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post Nov 13 2015, 08:57 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) and enjoy your project. FWIW, my 2nd 914's rust was isolated to the R rear trunk area and firewall. Thought I'd find more in between those 2 points but I didn't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 13 2015, 10:13 AM
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You've got a great start!

Rust will be your biggest issue. I suggest tearing the engine out and taking a look at these items before you continue. Repair as needed immediately since your enthusiasm is high right now.

I just did a quick rust repair similar to the car you are describing.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2255525
I spent less than 20 hours repairing this in a manner befitting a driver.
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post Nov 13 2015, 10:35 AM
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...........where is that "foam" in the rear that can be torn out to check for water/rust?
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post Nov 13 2015, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(whitetwinturbo @ Nov 13 2015, 08:35 AM) *

...........where is that "foam" in the rear that can be torn out to check for water/rust?

See that large rust spot on his back fender?
The foam is right behind that in the cavity above the tail light.

Remove the rear wheel, get a good flash light and have a close look at the foam and sealer.

If the sealer looks cracked, it's a good idea to remove all the foam and sealer and clean out the rust.
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post Nov 13 2015, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 13 2015, 11:06 AM) *

QUOTE(whitetwinturbo @ Nov 13 2015, 08:35 AM) *

...........where is that "foam" in the rear that can be torn out to check for water/rust?

See that large rust spot on his back fender?
The foam is right behind that in the cavity above the tail light.

Remove the rear wheel, get a good flash light and have a close look at the foam and sealer.

If the sealer looks cracked, it's a good idea to remove all the foam and sealer and clean out the rust.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Thanks for the tip.....
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