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Euro-Spec Car? |
GregAmy |
Dec 14 2015, 07:42 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,302 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
Relatively new to 914s, a few years. I've got a '74 2L that I've been refurb'ing for a bit, and in working on it I'm noticing a few odd things:
- No evidence of the seat belt interlock system. No wires anywhere, nothing tucked away in a hole. - Oddball European rear tail lights, has a small outer bulb that is missing from the spares I have in the loft. - Originally came with Euro front lenses, I've since replaced them with US orange (euro replacements too damned expensive). - When I select a turn signal with the ignition off, the parking bulbs (and that small bulb) light up on that side of the car and stay on. - Headlight washer nozzles (that I've yet to track down to where they go) and there was a spare washer tank in the front trunk. - Electrical washer pump, which I understand is not stock? - Strange combo of dash- and center console-mounted oil temp. I converted it to center console only. I had originally dismissed most of this as a prior owner doing conversions (quality of work suspect), but I only discovered the city lights yesterday, accidentally, as I was installing the replacement dash pad (I thought I had a bad ground, then pulled the tail light covers to find the city bulbs). What have I got here? Previous owner conversion or a car that was not delivered in the USA? VIN 4742918315 . Greg Edited typo for headlight washer nozzles |
poorsche914 |
Dec 14 2015, 08:15 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,090 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Is there a VIN tag on the A pillar? If so, US spec. Otherwise, possibly ROW (rest of world)
Much of what you mention sounds like PO changes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
rick 918-S |
Dec 14 2015, 09:09 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,460 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
The city park light is common among our cars. the euro tail light lenses need to go. I can send you a set of US replacements. Toss those euro lenses into a box and drop them in the mail to me and I will discard them for you... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Headlight washers? Ya, send them too... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dave_Darling |
Dec 14 2015, 10:12 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
- No evidence of the seat belt interlock system. No wires anywhere, nothing tucked away in a hole. Interesting! Nothing under the passenger's seat? QUOTE - Oddball European rear tail lights, has a small outer bulb that is missing from the spares I have in the loft. Those sound like the real deal. QUOTE - Originally came with Euro front lenses, I've since replaced them with US orange (euro replacements too damned expensive). Are the turn signal buckets split with a divider? Do they have two bulbs? If so, they're the real deal as well. If not, they're just lenses, which are relatively cheap to replace. QUOTE - When I select a turn signal with the ignition off, the parking bulbs (and that small bulb) light up on that side of the car and stay on. Absolutely standard for our cars. QUOTE - Headlight washer nozzles (that I've yet to track down to where they go) and there was a spare washer tank in the front trunk. Very interesting!! Any extra switches, extra wiring, etc? Are the nozzles in the bumper top? QUOTE - Electrical washer pump, which I understand is not stock? Popular aftermarket mot on four-cylinder cars. QUOTE - Strange combo of dash- and center console-mounted oil temp. I converted it to center console only. That seems to happen with a few 74+ cars. At a guess, the bin at the factory didn't have any more non-oil-temp combo gauges that day, so they stuck the oil temp one in instead, and the car was ordered with the center console so they put that one in as well. QUOTE What have I got here? Previous owner conversion or a car that was not delivered in the USA? VIN 4742918315 . Probably the latter. As was pointed out, US-spec cars have the VIN tag in the windshield frame. They also have emissions stickers in the engine bay. And, of course, the Certificate of Authenticity (from Porsche, send money!) will tell you. Also, a Euro-spec 74 would either have an AN-code motor (dual carb 1.8) or a GB-code motor (higher-compression 2.0) instead of the US-spec EC or GA. --DD |
GregAmy |
Dec 14 2015, 03:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,302 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
- No evidence of the seat belt interlock system. No wires anywhere, nothing tucked away in a hole. Interesting! Nothing under the passenger's seat? Nothing, nada, and I've had the interior completely out (did a full interior resto over last weekend, new backpanel, seat covers, etc). Not even evidence of a bad wiring hack job. Just...missing. QUOTE QUOTE - Originally came with Euro front lenses, I've since replaced them with US orange (euro replacements too damned expensive). Are the turn signal buckets split with a divider? Do they have two bulbs? If so, they're the real deal as well. If not, they're just lenses, which are relatively cheap to replace. Didn't notice, I'll compare the two cars. QUOTE QUOTE - When I select a turn signal with the ignition off, the parking bulbs (and that small bulb) light up on that side of the car and stay on. Absolutely standard for our cars. US 914s have that too? QUOTE Very interesting!! Any extra switches, extra wiring, etc? Are the nozzles in the bumper top? Front nozzles are in the bumper top, hoses go to a pump that was mounted to a tank in the spare tire well. I'll check for a VIN tag on the A-frame, and emissions stickers would have been long gone by now (this car lived a hard life). Car is a D-Jet. GA (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1201.photobucket.com-15565-1450130639.1.jpg) |
914Sixer |
Dec 14 2015, 06:21 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
To the best of my knowledge only Euro cars got headlight washers. Never a USA option. The tail light description is correct for Euro assemblies. Does the car have side marker lights? The key is whether or not it has the windshield post VIN plate. No plate, not USA model.
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Valy |
Dec 14 2015, 06:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,675 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
The left one is US model. I can see the VIN tag, the side markers, front bumper with tits...
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EdwardBlume |
Dec 14 2015, 07:35 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
The tits are a give away.... unless modded, but thats what's connected to the bumper top too....
Might be a special order US car.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Looks good! |
GregAmy |
Dec 15 2015, 06:25 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,302 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
The left one is US model. I can see the VIN tag, the side markers, front bumper with tits... Yup, left (red) one is the one in question. I'm guessing a previous owner converted the lights; all have the separated area for the smaller bulbs. I was not aware that all 914s got the turn signal/city lights. Still don't know why there's no evidence of the seatbelt interlock, though. I mean no evidence at all, and I looked hard for it. So, side question: the front sidemarkers are US-only? I guess that would explain why they look so tacked-on. I gave thought to having them replaced with something more elegant when we did the paint last year, but ran out of time to think about it before my slot in the booth opened up. |
Valy |
Dec 15 2015, 09:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,675 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
Do you have the seatbelt light on the dashboard, above the cabin heat controls? I bet that even if it was removed, the hole is there, under the vinyl.
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Dave_Darling |
Dec 15 2015, 10:46 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
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