Car porn not 914 but related, hey it's all in the family, Unbelievable pictures Options

[Mikey914]

A customer of mine in is doing a 67 912 resto from tub up. The early 912s had the same issues with rust we do and even has foam in them too (just like our 914s).

He used a company in Ohio to dip the car and dissolve the crud (he did scrape off the tar) ans ecoat the entire car. He did the doors 1st to see if he would like the results, and wow! Looks like new metal.

Looks like Stoddard will be doing a full write up on this car at some point, but I was so impressed with the results that though I would share.

[Rob-O]

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Great paint info. I worked in the OEM paint industry for a long, long time, specifically BASF. BASF's aftermarket products were numerous, but most people associated them with Rinshed-Mason.

The e-coat tank is the paint so it doesn't get rinsed after application. It would go from the e-coat tank straight to an oven.

But I do disagree that the 914 was ever dipped by the factory. The inner longs, once separated, show no signs of paint in that area. That area also wouldn't qualify as a Farraday cage area. Besides, If the longs were already welded together, then that means the heater tubes were also already in place. Those heater tubes would not have survived the pre-treatment or any dipping/e-coating process.

Dipping a car now is definitely possible (and this subject comes up every year or so on the World). If it's to be a track car no problem (but im not sure why one would go to that expense for most track cars). But for a car that ever wants to have the capability of producing heat to the cabin again, the heater tubes will need to be pulled before dipping...and that means cutting the outer long to get the tube out.

[John]

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Great paint info. I worked in the OEM paint industry for a long, long time, specifically BASF. BASF's aftermarket products were numerous, but most people associated them with Rinshed-Mason.

The e-coat tank is the paint so it doesn't get rinsed after application. It would go from the e-coat tank straight to an oven.

But I do disagree that the 914 was ever dipped by the factory. The inner longs, once separated, show no signs of paint in that area. That area also wouldn't qualify as a Farraday cage area. Besides, If the longs were already welded together, then that means the heater tubes were also already in place. Those heater tubes would not have survived the pre-treatment or any dipping/e-coating process.

Dipping a car now is definitely possible (and this subject comes up every year or so on the World). If it's to be a track car no problem (but im not sure why one would go to that expense for most track cars). But for a car that ever wants to have the capability of producing heat to the cabin again, the heater tubes will need to be pulled before dipping...and that means cutting the outer long to get the tube out.

Begging your pardon, but:

Every E-Coat system that I have seen/worked on has a post rinse directly after the paint tank to rinse any residual paint off the surface of the painted part. If that step is skipped, the coating is not nearly uniform enough. The Electrocoating process basically plates the paint to the metal surface. The post rinse is to get rid of any paint that was not electro-deposited onto the substrate.



The electro-deposition paint process is basically a line of sight between the anodes and the part being painted. While the inner portions of some tubes may get coated, it will not coat too far into the faraday cage.

Similar effects occur in other forms of electro-deposition painting processes.

I believe that if a process was autoferretic, no voltage passes through the paint and the inside of tubing can be painted, but without voltage, it is not E-Coat.


We have done automotive lines, truck lines, railroad car lines, Agricultural equipment lines, etc, etc.....

(I too don't have an answer concerning the paper heater tubes, but that is what I have read and recall from way, way back.)