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| mb911 |
 Dec 30 2015, 12:45 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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Looks like I have c.. So the question is the height the same for b and c from mounting on the trans axle to the muffler bolt location so that all I need to do is still new holes in my 1.7, 1.8 bracket..
My method for locating everything is the engine being point a and the bracket is point b that way I I can build from a-b.. So the bracket is really important for mocking up. I will develop something like the 911 has for the finished product. |
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| gandalf_025 |
Dec 30 2015, 02:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,447 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
Any chance you can make some simple ones like these in stainless ?
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| mb911 |
Dec 30 2015, 03:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Dec 30 2015, 12:51 PM)  Any chance you can make some simple ones like these in stainless ? Yup and then heat exchangers would be a breeze. |
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| mb911 |
Dec 30 2015, 03:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Who made this originally?
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| gandalf_025 |
Dec 30 2015, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,447 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 30 2015, 04:50 PM) Who made this originally? Not entirely sure who made them.. They were a backup set of headers for a 914-6 GT . They were made in the early 70's. I bought them in the mid 70's They had never been on a car, so.. new when I got them. they look like they were hand made. They were part of a big parts stash that got bought by someone I knew. The Race Team moved and sold off a lot of parts before moving. I can PM you more details if you like ? I got this shift rod at the same time, it allows for an early 911 aluminum case engine to fit in a 914-6 and clear the casting on the bottom of the engine.  |
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| jmill |
Dec 30 2015, 04:49 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 30 2015, 12:45 PM) Looks like I have c.. So the question is the height the same for b and c from mounting on the trans axle to the muffler bolt location so that all I need to do is still new holes in my 1.7, 1.8 bracket.. I may have a B laying around. I'll take a look. I'm also interested in a simple exhaust that bolts to a nice 2 outlet muffler. Something that'll make my little 2.2 sound like an IMSA car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| jmill |
Dec 30 2015, 04:55 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Dec 30 2015, 09:23 AM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 30 2015, 07:15 AM) England hanger I'd ditch the welded-on stiffener and use dimple dies instead reduce flexing in that part. Wouldn't help. The part would still flex in between the dimpled holes. |
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| wndsnd |
Dec 30 2015, 04:59 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States  |
QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Dec 30 2015, 05:33 PM) QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 30 2015, 04:50 PM) Who made this originally? Not entirely sure who made them.. They were a backup set of headers for a 914-6 GT . They were made in the early 70's. I bought them in the mid 70's They had never been on a car, so.. new when I got them. they look like they were hand made. They were part of a big parts stash that got bought by someone I knew. The Race Team moved and sold off a lot of parts before moving. I can PM you more details if you like ? I got this shift rod at the same time, it allows for an early 911 aluminum case engine to fit in a 914-6 and clear the casting on the bottom of the engine. GT Racing Headers, in SS with heat, for $1500.00. Now we are talking! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| mb911 |
Dec 30 2015, 05:23 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(wndsnd @ Dec 30 2015, 02:59 PM) QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Dec 30 2015, 05:33 PM) QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 30 2015, 04:50 PM) Who made this originally? Not entirely sure who made them.. They were a backup set of headers for a 914-6 GT . They were made in the early 70's. I bought them in the mid 70's They had never been on a car, so.. new when I got them. they look like they were hand made. They were part of a big parts stash that got bought by someone I knew. The Race Team moved and sold off a lot of parts before moving. I can PM you more details if you like ? I got this shift rod at the same time, it allows for an early 911 aluminum case engine to fit in a 914-6 and clear the casting on the bottom of the engine. GT Racing Headers, in SS with heat, for $1500.00. Now we are talking! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) I still think I can make it happen for that or darn close |
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| mb911 |
Dec 30 2015, 05:24 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Dec 30 2015, 02:33 PM) QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 30 2015, 04:50 PM) Who made this originally? Not entirely sure who made them.. They were a backup set of headers for a 914-6 GT . They were made in the early 70's. I bought them in the mid 70's They had never been on a car, so.. new when I got them. they look like they were hand made. They were part of a big parts stash that got bought by someone I knew. The Race Team moved and sold off a lot of parts before moving. I can PM you more details if you like ? I got this shift rod at the same time, it allows for an early 911 aluminum case engine to fit in a 914-6 and clear the casting on the bottom of the engine. I definitely interested please more details. |
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| Gary |
Dec 31 2015, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Dec 30 2015, 03:51 PM) Any chance you can make some simple ones like these in stainless ? McMark has a set left over from a -6 install he is doing for me: stainless headers. As far as I know he did not sell them before his move. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-419-1435270877.jpg) |
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| mb911 |
Dec 31 2015, 02:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Picked up the engine today thanks John. Going to build a 2x4 stand this week so I can put the engine and the trans on the stand upside down and can build the exhaust as if it were sitting on a bench.. .. Need confirmation that the bracket c is the same as bracket b except for the spacing on the muffler bolt holes..
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| JmuRiz |
Dec 31 2015, 02:52 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,422 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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They aren't the same, the heights are different for the 1.7/1.8 and 2.0
See the rise in the heat exchangers on the smaller engines:(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/bowlsby.net-50-1451595169.1.jpg) |
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| mb911 |
Dec 31 2015, 03:00 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Dec 31 2015, 12:52 PM) They aren't the same, the heights are different for the 1.7/1.8 and 2.0 See the rise in the heat exchangers on the smaller engines:(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/bowlsby.net-50-1451595169.1.jpg) That's not good. Now I need a measurement so I can modify what I have to be able to get to work |
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| Luke M |
Dec 31 2015, 05:25 PM
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You would need a 914-6/914 2.0 bracket . There's a few different 914 4 styles early to late it changed again IIRC.
Pic shows the 914-6/ 914 2.0 bracket. Attached image(s)   
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| jmill |
Dec 31 2015, 06:10 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
OK, I thought I had a couple of 2.0 muffler hangers I could give Ben. I don't. I must have gave them away or put them somewhere I wouldn't lose them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Ben needs some measurements. Can someone with a 2.0 muffler hanger give him the center to center measurements in the picture below. If a couple of guys pipe in and confirm them, even better. Attached image(s) 
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| Luke M |
Dec 31 2015, 06:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,368 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(jmill @ Dec 31 2015, 05:10 PM) OK, I thought I had a couple of 2.0 muffler hangers I could give Ben. I don't. I must have gave them away or put them somewhere I wouldn't lose them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Ben needs some measurements. Can someone with a 2.0 muffler hanger give him the center to center measurements in the picture below. If a couple of guys pipe in and confirm them, even better. I have one off my 6. I'll go out and measure it in a few. 20" c to c on header flange mount, 5" c to c on trans mount holes, 6 1/4" c to c from trans mount down to center flange line. |
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| mb911 |
Jan 4 2016, 03:34 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,801 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 31 2015, 04:16 PM) QUOTE(jmill @ Dec 31 2015, 05:10 PM) OK, I thought I had a couple of 2.0 muffler hangers I could give Ben. I don't. I must have gave them away or put them somewhere I wouldn't lose them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Ben needs some measurements. Can someone with a 2.0 muffler hanger give him the center to center measurements in the picture below. If a couple of guys pipe in and confirm them, even better. I have one off my 6. I'll go out and measure it in a few. 20" c to c on header flange mount, 5" c to c on trans mount holes, 6 1/4" c to c from trans mount down to center flange line. Thanks for the info. I will mod my mount and start mocking up parts.. I have to make a hard decision on these.. I really wanted to use a burns style collector as they are so nice but that could drive the price up another 450 in cost over just a simple collector like you see so often. I looked at headers by eds website as they offer a bunch of options but I can buy everything locally for about the same price and I can locally source all the flanges as well.. So to meet my target of 1500. It looks like it will be the simplier collector.. What is everyone's thoughts on this? |
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| wndsnd |
Jan 4 2016, 04:47 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Design and build the best performance and quality product you can at a competitive price. Offer two sizes, heat and no heat. My .02
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 4 2016, 06:38 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It began to rain in Baton Rouge and it continued that night, through the next day in New Orleans and into Florida.
I was excited to be able to pull my red lever on the center tunnel and crank the upper dash lever to the right, middle to the left and lower to the right and clear off my windshield in a few seconds. Heat isn't always for heat... something to consider next time you say you don't need heat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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