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| Series9 |
 Jan 2 2016, 08:13 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken.  Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States  |
So, I was given a lathe that had electrical problems.
I sorted those problems, and I am now looking for some simple projects so I can learn the machine. My first thought is to turn some clutch pulleys out of brass. Do you have other suggestions? Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| iwanta914-6 |
Jan 4 2016, 03:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 26-June 09 From: Minnesota Member No.: 10,510 Region Association: None 
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I used to operate Lathes and Mills when I was a kid. My dad owned a machine shop so I learned from one of the best machinists. Of course I chose not to follow in his footsteps and haven't operated any machines since I was 18.
My suggestion is that you take some classes at a local vo-tech just to get a better understanding of the basics, which includes all the safety lessons. |
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| veekry9 |
Jan 4 2016, 03:58 PM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
https://www.google.ca/search?q=miniature+v8...yA95qXWQQ22M%3A
Ya gotta appreciate the massive workload to achieve these works of machining art. (edit:01/06/16) http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/dahlberg.htm Mindboggling,dedication,talent,perseverance,skill... I happen to have made a plastic model of this car along with a Stutz Bearcat in the early '60s. Why I like it,the time and talent as applied to machine sculpture,as you would a fine Swiss watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoDFV_-FPrc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Rfvu7k2nI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L4Hj85Kb5o ( You may find this illuminating. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) " Here we show that a dense uniform dispersion of silicon carbide nanoparticles (14 per cent by volume) in magnesium can be achieved through a nanoparticle self-stabilization mechanism in molten metal. An enhancement of strength, stiffness, plasticity and high-temperature stability is simultaneously achieved, delivering a higher specific yield strength and higher specific modulus than almost all structural metals."....wow! I've worked with some amazing hitemp alloys,if they are referring to the top 3%,we have a new paradigm of power to weight across all applications. Magnesium-SiliconCarbide Composite(MgSiC) conrods,pistons,valvegear,chassis. Big changes coming.Wow. http://gizmodo.com/new-magnesium-composite...h-to-1749578336 http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v528/...ature16445.html ) / (edit:2/22/16) Think of an engine block with cylinder bores of < 3mm wall thickness,an engine of half the weight. Pistons weights allowing high rpm use,the temp stability to allow much higher velocities. Who will be the first to offer a superleggara boxer engine for a ridiculously exorbitant price? A 40 Kg advantage will eventually find it's way to a 914 engine bay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) / |
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| Series9 |
Jan 5 2016, 08:12 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Jan 4 2016, 03:23 PM)  Don't be tempted to put a chuck into a chuck! Yes, people have done it! Dammit, it came with a small chuck and I thought that was how it was used. I figured out how to remove the 6" chuck and it's attached by 3 cam-locks. The small chuck has a shaft with threads on the rear portion, so it appears the small one is for another type of lathe. I have some tools. I'll take pictures and ask for more advice. |
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| toolguy |
Jan 5 2016, 01:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,268 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Jan 4 2016, 12:10 PM) I think I'll be getting this set: Look up KDK toolpost and holders. . The best and most versatile design There are some knock off's on EBay that are just as nice.. . this is the 100 size set. . that is what you want for a 12 inch lathe http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-PIECE-KDK-STYLE-...5-/231314112361 |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Jan 5 2016, 02:23 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(toolguy @ Jan 4 2016, 09:04 AM) You can make anything you put your mind to. . . My Chevy V8, most from scratch. Crank took 2 weeks, cam 1 week. . both from solid round stock . the roller rockers were the hardest because I needed 16 identical. . I marvel at guys like you with these kinds of skills. . . AMAZING!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) When it's done and running you have to post-up a video!! |
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| veekry9 |
Jan 5 2016, 02:38 PM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(NeunEinVier @ Jan 4 2016, 01:00 PM) QUOTE(Series9 @ Jan 2 2016, 08:13 PM) My first thought is to turn some clutch pulleys out of brass. Do you have other suggestions? A pistol silencer, so you can be James Bond? Warning! This is not a drill! Graphic content of industrial accident within!Gore. An example of not following rules of MC 101. http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41444 (edit:01/12/16) He looked as surprised as anyone could get. I found this while searching for 'Mas' engine lathe. (edit:05/22/16) Photobucket has taken down the pix of the accident, I suppose the horrible nature of accident investigation is too offensive. Civil War pix,or plane and train crashes. Boer War,WW1 and WW2,Korea and VietNam and so on. Used to be,the dead were front page news,all around the world. Surely,they were more offended than the viewers,decades or centuries later. They were professionally taken for reference in law,an inquiry for recommendations to regulation changes. The purpose,to avoid more accidents,like the carnage on the highways. Teaching more people about the results of ignored rules or seatbelts might have an effect on the number of casualties. / |
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| VegasRacer |
Jan 5 2016, 09:30 PM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,511 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Jan 2 2016, 06:13 PM) My first thought is to turn some clutch pulleys out of brass. Like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Attached image(s) 
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| Series9 |
Jan 5 2016, 09:57 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Jan 5 2016, 10:30 PM) QUOTE(Series9 @ Jan 2 2016, 06:13 PM) My first thought is to turn some clutch pulleys out of brass. Like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Yes, exactly like Wills' souvenir. |
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| zambezi |
Jan 6 2016, 01:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 14-April 08 From: Lafayette, LA Member No.: 8,920 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(Series9 @ Jan 5 2016, 08:12 AM) QUOTE(Mueller @ Jan 4 2016, 03:23 PM) Don't be tempted to put a chuck into a chuck! Yes, people have done it! Dammit, it came with a small chuck and I thought that was how it was used. I figured out how to remove the 6" chuck and it's attached by 3 cam-locks. The small chuck has a shaft with threads on the rear portion, so it appears the small one is for another type of lathe. I have some tools. I'll take pictures and ask for more advice. Maybe the small chuck is for the tail stock for drilling holes. That is how ours is done. |
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| toolguy |
Jan 6 2016, 10:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,268 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California
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12X36 and 13x40 import {China or Taiwan] lathes almost always come with a 6 inch camlock chuck with a D1-4 spindle mount. . Going up to an 8 inch chuck is double the rotating weight, A 6 in chuck is around 20 pounds, 8 in is about 35+ pounds,
You lathe looks to be a 12x36 with probably a 1 1/2 motor at best. A 6 inch chuck is what it is best suited to turn. Consider what the HP is on the motor on yours. . .and the weight of the piece you are turning when considering a larger chuck. . Wanting to hold larger objects is why the chuck jaws are reversible and have 3 steps, once you exceed the limit of the chuck you should consider a bigger lathe to match a larger chuck. . . A drill chuck is what is used in the tailstock, just like on a drillpress but with a Morse taper mount. Once again, just my 2 cents, but think safety here. . flying metal is hard to stop. |
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| Olympic 914 |
Jan 6 2016, 11:05 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(veekry9 @ Jan 5 2016, 03:38 PM) Warning! This is not a drill! Graphic content of industrial accident within!Gore. An example of not following rules of MC 101. http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41444 Veekry Thanks for posting this. Very graphic.... I also was given a small lathe, old Logan 10x24. and I have very little metal working experience. I have made a couple small parts and am very careful when using it. But these pictures will be in my mind anytime I use it from now on.... |
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| sean_v8_914 |
Jan 6 2016, 11:39 AM
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Chingon 601 Group: Members Posts: 4,011 Joined: 1-February 05 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,541 |
grab a chunk of broom stick. make a contoured handle. pencil out a simple handle with some steps and dia changes. them try to make the wood look like your picture. my son just gave me a lathe. my first real project was to turn down the ID of a steering hub adapter. im having fun with it. this thread is awesome. thanks for the guidance
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| veekry9 |
Jan 6 2016, 11:41 AM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
 The horror technique was used on us in our teen years and effectively shocked us into a safety mode around machine tools. The instructor was a WW2 vet of military discipline,the values imparted by strict rules of operation. It is true some people have no business messing with them,at all.Case in point,a new guy tried to off himself twice in a few days. Untrained,unwary and ignorant of the first premises of self preservation,he was dismissed with a recommendation to a trade school. A shop coat caught in the lead screw of the lathe,panicked,screamed and was saved by me when I shut the spindle off. Next day,'forgot'to clamp the barfeeder and had the turret lathe hopping off the floor,he froze. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Herbert No9,made in England,30-60's.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Herbert_(company) / |
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| Mueller |
Jan 6 2016, 12:14 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(veekry9 @ Jan 6 2016, 09:41 AM) The horror technique was used on us in our teen years and effectively shocked us into a safety mode around machine tools. It is true some people have no business messing with them at all.Case in point,a new guy tried to off himself twice in a few days. Untrained,unwary and ignorant of the first premises of self preservation,he was dismissed with a recommendation to a trade school. A shop coat caught in the lead screw of the lathe,panicked,screamed and was saved by me when I shut the spindle off. Next day,'forgot'to clamp the barfeeder and had the turret lathe hopping off the floor,he froze. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Herbert No9,made in England,50-60's.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Herbert_(company) We had a cast lathe chuck failure on a machine a little bit bigger than that one a few years ago, the part weighed a few hundred pounds which wasn't the problem , it was too high of an RPM for a cast chuck! Luckily no injuries. The forged steel replacement chuck cost over $15,000. Joe, Hurry up and make some chips, show off your work! |
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| 76-914 |
Jan 6 2016, 12:33 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,504 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Jan 2 2016, 06:13 PM) So, I was given a lathe that had electrical problems. I sorted those problems, and I am now looking for some simple projects so I can learn the machine. My first thought is to turn some clutch pulleys out of brass. Do you have other suggestions? Arrgh. I hate you. But, as with most gifts, you probably earned it so enjoy. I'm just envious as shit. Did that little red Kennedy KK19 hip box come with it? It's about the same age. Have fun with it, Joe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| mbseto |
Jan 7 2016, 03:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
Machine shop guys always have impressive stories. And there's 101 ways to get zinged. Was in a shop with an impressively large shaper, bed over 30ft. long. Me and a new guy were watching that head slide towards us, curling off .1 thk steel corkscrew. It hit the ground right at our feet and sounded as big as a garage door spring. He bent down to pick it up and I hip-checked him. He was affronted for a moment, but then we watched it slowly turn that same blue as a motorcycle exhaust pipe.
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| Series9 |
Jan 7 2016, 05:11 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
So, I had to replace the front wheel bearings on the right side of my Vanagon today.
The rotor looked pretty crappy, so I took the opportunity to put it in the lathe. Success! It was the first time I used the power feed and it came out pretty well. I'm going to want a nicer finish in the future, but definitely good enough for a brake rotor. My oldest boy (14) seemed unimpressed as I was smiling with the lathe running. I told him he didn't understand the significance of what he was seeing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| Mueller |
Jan 7 2016, 05:33 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Jan 7 2016, 03:11 PM) So, I had to replace the front wheel bearings on the right side of my Vanagon today. The rotor looked pretty crappy, so I took the opportunity to put it in the lathe. Success! It was the first time I used the power feed and it came out pretty well. I'm going to want a nicer finish in the future, but definitely good enough for a brake rotor. My oldest boy (14) seemed unimpressed as I was smiling with the lathe running. I told him he didn't understand the significance of what he was seeing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) There is something therapeutic when turning the handles on a manual lathe or mill when making chips, I don't get the same satisfaction when running the CNC... Don't laugh.....I might have some VCR tapes of Rudy Kouhoupt that cover lathe operation and tool grinding...if you still have a player and I can find them you can have them for the cost of shipping. http://bay-com.com/Rudy_Kouhoupt.php http://bay-com.com/cid/1-1/Machining_lathe...machinists.html Instructional DVDs to rent: https://smartflix.com/store/author/23/Rudy-Kouhoupt |
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| r_towle |
Jan 7 2016, 09:17 PM
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Btw,
I was joking about making something square. Love this place. |
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| veekry9 |
Jan 8 2016, 01:55 AM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
 Now you too can make your own stroker crankshaft! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Go ahead,make your hay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Note how spic n span his shop is. A cap for the lathe top should have railings,to keep tee wrenches there. Long stringy chips are bad,dangerous,and a sign of wrong. Never mess with those chips while rotating! Never. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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