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> New intake system, Made by Mario at the dub shop
Henshe
post Feb 7 2016, 12:32 PM
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Mario, of the dub shop (thedubshop.net) fabed up an awesome intake for the 914. It looks great and now I can even hear the Tangerine Racing exhaust over the itb's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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Elliot Cannon
post Feb 8 2016, 12:21 PM
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Nice, clean installation but seems to be a solution in search of a problem. IMHO. Normally, I would not disagree with Mark, however don't throw away the cross bar linkage. It can be modified easily. There was a thread on how to do this some years ago but I can't find it. I did mine and there is absolutely NO play in the linkage. Here's mine.


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post Feb 8 2016, 02:41 PM
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Nice, clean installation but seems to be a solution in search of a problem. IMHO. Normally, I would not disagree with Mark, however don't throw away the cross bar linkage. It can be modified easily. There was a thread on how to do this some years ago but I can't find it. I did mine and there is absolutely NO play in the linkage. Here's mine.


Hate to tell you this, but I don't like your linkage.
For one in this pic the angle of the connecting arm puts a large thrust (side) load on the carb, it will cause premature wear.
A crossbar linkage can be done, but I rarely see one I feel is acceptable. Except for the Gene Berg for a type 1, I've never seen a good crossbar set-up out of the box.

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post Feb 8 2016, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 8 2016, 03:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Feb 8 2016, 01:21 PM) *

Nice, clean installation but seems to be a solution in search of a problem. IMHO. Normally, I would not disagree with Mark, however don't throw away the cross bar linkage. It can be modified easily. There was a thread on how to do this some years ago but I can't find it. I did mine and there is absolutely NO play in the linkage. Here's mine.


Hate to tell you this, but I don't like your linkage.
For one in this pic the angle of the connecting arm puts a large thrust (side) load on the carb, it will cause premature wear.
A crossbar linkage can be done, but I rarely see one I feel is acceptable. Except for the Gene Berg for a type 1, I've never seen a good crossbar set-up out of the box.

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Yah,

I don't like your linkage either.....not that I have personally seen your linkage.

Also, why is it all red in there? Did you run out of black pain?

The big issue I had with any cross bar linkage is the engine expands when it gets hot.
I measured mine and it was not trivial.

That expansion is not accounted for in a cross bar linkage, th cross bar just gets loose.
I ended up with Foleys cable system and it really is a one shot deal, set it and forget it.
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Feb 8 2016, 05:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Feb 8 2016, 03:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Feb 8 2016, 01:21 PM) *

Nice, clean installation but seems to be a solution in search of a problem. IMHO. Normally, I would not disagree with Mark, however don't throw away the cross bar linkage. It can be modified easily. There was a thread on how to do this some years ago but I can't find it. I did mine and there is absolutely NO play in the linkage. Here's mine.


Hate to tell you this, but I don't like your linkage.
For one in this pic the angle of the connecting arm puts a large thrust (side) load on the carb, it will cause premature wear.
A crossbar linkage can be done, but I rarely see one I feel is acceptable. Except for the Gene Berg for a type 1, I've never seen a good crossbar set-up out of the box.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-7407-1454955688.jpg)

Yah,

I don't like your linkage either.....not that I have personally seen your linkage.

Also, why is it all red in there? Did you run out of black pain?

The big issue I had with any cross bar linkage is the engine expands when it gets hot.
I measured mine and it was not trivial.

That expansion is not accounted for in a cross bar linkage, th cross bar just gets loose.
I ended up with Foleys cable system and it really is a one shot deal, set it and forget it.



tell me of the Foleys cable system
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Henshe   New intake system   Feb 7 2016, 12:32 PM
McMark   Throw that cross bar linkage in the trash ASAP.   Feb 7 2016, 12:47 PM
02loftsmoor   Throw that cross bar linkage in the trash ASAP. ...   Feb 7 2016, 08:31 PM
jmill   Very nice. Now you can turbo it! :drivin...   Feb 7 2016, 01:29 PM
rhodyguy   How is the front of the tubing, near the filter, s...   Feb 7 2016, 04:12 PM
Mark Henry   Looks to me like CB Performance turbo system plumb...   Feb 7 2016, 06:09 PM
r_towle   Interesting, seems the cooling fan and the intake ...   Feb 7 2016, 06:51 PM
Mark Henry   Interesting, seems the cooling fan and the intake...   Feb 7 2016, 08:16 PM
porschetub   Interesting, seems the cooling fan and the intake...   Feb 7 2016, 08:58 PM
Series9   I think we have a new entry for "Top 10 Point...   Feb 7 2016, 08:19 PM
Andyrew   I think we have a new entry for "Top 10 Poin...   Feb 7 2016, 10:08 PM
McMark   CSP Bellcrank   Feb 7 2016, 08:50 PM
02loftsmoor   CSP Bellcrank looks better that the cross bar ...   Feb 8 2016, 04:42 PM
URY914   So what is so special about it? What does it do di...   Feb 7 2016, 09:57 PM
wndsrfr   So what is so special about it? What does it do d...   Feb 7 2016, 10:11 PM
boxsterfan   Reminds me of: http://www.osintakes.com/ :)   Feb 7 2016, 10:53 PM
BeatNavy   Reminds me of: [url=http://www.osintakes.com/]htt...   Feb 8 2016, 08:11 PM
Mueller   Nice, I wouldn't expect any performance gains ...   Feb 7 2016, 11:06 PM
Mark Henry   I'd actually like to see something very simila...   Feb 7 2016, 11:57 PM
Jake Raby   The last time I did a comparative on a similar set...   Feb 8 2016, 09:48 AM
Mueller   The last time I did a comparative on a similar se...   Feb 8 2016, 10:09 AM
Jake Raby   The last time I did a comparative on a similar s...   Feb 8 2016, 10:12 AM
rhodyguy   Nuff said. Thanks jake.   Feb 8 2016, 10:16 AM
Elliot Cannon   Nice, clean installation but seems to be a solutio...   Feb 8 2016, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   Nice, clean installation but seems to be a soluti...   Feb 8 2016, 02:41 PM
r_towle   Nice, clean installation but seems to be a solut...   Feb 8 2016, 05:02 PM
02loftsmoor   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2300323' date='Feb...   Feb 8 2016, 05:10 PM
Harpo   What about the CSP linkage? It seems like McMark ...   Feb 8 2016, 04:54 PM
Elliot Cannon   My linkage has been like this for over 10 years. ...   Feb 8 2016, 07:57 PM
Series9   Trust me, if you take a little time to set up a CB...   Feb 8 2016, 08:29 PM
McMark   Trust me, if you take a little time to set up a C...   Feb 8 2016, 11:26 PM
Eric_Shea   Perfect thread for "how to learn never to pos...   Feb 8 2016, 10:57 PM
396   This is another interesting tread, you gotta give ...   Feb 8 2016, 11:58 PM
Elliot Cannon   Here's the thread I followed to improve my lin...   Feb 9 2016, 01:34 AM
matthepcat   Kinda seems like an intake for forced induction.   Feb 9 2016, 02:21 AM
edwin   Looks like one of my weekend projects from early l...   Feb 9 2016, 07:24 AM
wndsrfr   Ended up going Tps for the ecu anyway so I took i...   Feb 9 2016, 07:38 AM
McMark   Ended up going Tps for the ecu anyway so I took ...   Feb 9 2016, 08:01 AM
edwin   Ended up going Tps for the ecu anyway so I took ...   Feb 9 2016, 08:17 AM
rhodyguy   The shouldered bolts Elliot mentioned eliminate th...   Feb 9 2016, 07:59 AM
Series9   How about: Loose the ITBs, attach the intake dire...   Feb 9 2016, 08:06 AM
Mark Henry   How about: Loose the ITBs, attach the intake dir...   Feb 9 2016, 12:13 PM
wndsrfr   How about: Loose the ITBs, attach the intake dir...   Feb 12 2016, 06:50 AM
Darren C   Interesting centre linkage you have there Edwin. ...   Feb 9 2016, 08:17 AM
Racer Chris   ... Throttle cable movement when transmitted thr...   Feb 9 2016, 10:33 AM
396   ... Throttle cable movement when transmitted th...   Feb 9 2016, 10:56 AM
Darren C   ... Throttle cable movement when transmitted th...   Feb 9 2016, 11:00 AM
DBCooper   Probably not, Chris, the coefficient of flow over ...   Feb 9 2016, 10:54 AM
rgolia   How about one of these? A little pricey but do the...   Feb 9 2016, 11:19 AM
r_towle   How about one of these? A little pricey but do th...   Feb 9 2016, 01:49 PM
Steve Pratel   How about one of these? A little pricey but do th...   Feb 10 2016, 05:39 PM
rhodyguy   A "little pricy"? :( dual paper filters ...   Feb 9 2016, 11:24 AM
Series9   MAP sensor signal is a definite problem with ITBs....   Feb 9 2016, 01:48 PM
Series9   That's cool, but the MAP sensor problem will o...   Feb 9 2016, 02:09 PM
sixnotfour   WOW, I have never seen a thread go more sideways...   Feb 9 2016, 02:22 PM
Mark Henry   WOW, I have never seen a thread go more sideway...   Feb 9 2016, 02:51 PM
Series9   :agree: The "sideways component" of th...   Feb 9 2016, 02:59 PM
sixnotfour   I don't know either person on this post , may...   Feb 9 2016, 06:16 PM
rgolia   Does anyone know what unit from CSP is best for a ...   Feb 10 2016, 05:47 PM
trojanhorsepower   Perfect thread for "how to learn never to po...   Feb 10 2016, 05:53 PM
nathansnathan   I've been working on something similar, I got ...   Feb 12 2016, 05:38 PM
Racer Chris   I'm planning on using a scat linkage probabl...   Feb 13 2016, 07:38 AM


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