Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

2 Pages V  1 2 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> lotus europa tc special same Era as 914
914world2014
post Feb 8 2016, 05:12 PM
Post #1


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 16
Joined: 7-April 14
From: nj
Member No.: 17,214
Region Association: None



The lotus europa tc special was same Era as 914. Are you familiar with this europa.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
struckn
post Feb 8 2016, 06:25 PM
Post #2


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,069
Joined: 9-November 11
From: South Central York Pennsyvania
Member No.: 13,764
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



QUOTE(914world2014 @ Feb 8 2016, 03:12 PM) *

The lotus europa tc special was same Era as 914. Are you familiar with this europa.



Yes, the Europa was an excellent Sorts car. I had friends that had one and it's roof height was probibly the lowest of any car that I road in. You're almost laying down insde. So, dangerously low that most of the ones I saw had to put a tall whip antenna on the back bumper with a triagle Flag on the end to be seen and notget run over. I did a lot of Autocross racing in the ealy 70's and the Europa's often won Fastest time of the day.

I'd love to have one but I think I would prefer the Lotus 7 which when imported to the US as a Kit Car to avoid US Safety requirements I beleive.

All that being said, the 914 is a much better choice to have as you can drive them anywhere, race them, or just enjoy the amazing ride they give on a twisty back road with the Targa Top off. Truly a Street legal go cart ride and performance...plus it comes free with one of the biggest online Clubs in the World....914world.com.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
GregAmy
post Feb 8 2016, 07:13 PM
Post #3


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,262
Joined: 22-February 13
From: Middletown CT
Member No.: 15,565
Region Association: North East States



What's "TC Special"? I have a close friend with a JPS, John Player Special Lotus Europa, with the dual-port heads and DCOE carbs. It's an interesting car, drives OK but shifts like our 914s with the tail-shifters. The Ford 1600cc is an Ok engine but not, IMO, as torquey as my 2L.

I mean, they're good cars and very much in the spirit of Chapman's "add lightness" priorities. But you get tagged in one of those and you're in trouble (it's a Fiberglas body on a channel-frame; not much steel between the door and central tunnel.)

My buddy would probably sell his if someone's interested (he's got a 70s 911 Carrera replica that he enjoys driving now).
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
poorsche914
post Feb 8 2016, 08:04 PM
Post #4


T4 Supercharged
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,087
Joined: 28-May 09
From: Smoky Mountains
Member No.: 10,419
Region Association: South East States



I owned a '74 Twin Cam Europa with 5-speed. When I bought it, it was 10 years old with under 35k miles and was falling apart. They are a very fragile car. Fiberglass body on a steel backbone chassis. NO side protection at all. Shifting was very loose.

It was more a go-kart for the road than the 914. After driving the Lotus for a month while my 914 was having work done, the 914 steering felt heavy compared to the Lotus (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
smg914
post Feb 8 2016, 08:22 PM
Post #5


Sahara Beige Steve
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,962
Joined: 22-February 04
From: Tampa, FL
Member No.: 1,695
Region Association: None



I owned this JPS for 5 years. I sold it about 5 years ago to purchase my LE creamsicle. I loved it and in a perfect world I would have kept it but I wanted this LE and with the lack of money and space, the Lotus had to go.


Attached image(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
rgalla9146
post Feb 8 2016, 08:59 PM
Post #6


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,538
Joined: 23-November 05
From: Paramus NJ
Member No.: 5,176
Region Association: None




World class handling, worlds worst quality.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Series9
post Feb 8 2016, 09:19 PM
Post #7


Lesbians taste like chicken.
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,444
Joined: 22-August 04
From: DeLand, FL
Member No.: 2,602
Region Association: South East States



QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Feb 8 2016, 09:59 PM) *

World class handling, worlds worst quality.




(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

I maintain one of those at S9. The guy who owns it pays big money for me to even touch it. If you think I cuss like a sailor in regular life......

He also has a Fiat X1/9. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
colingreene
post Feb 8 2016, 09:47 PM
Post #8


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 729
Joined: 17-October 13
From: Southern California
Member No.: 16,526
Region Association: Southern California



need LotusJoe in here.
He knows some Europa stuff.
I think they are neat cars
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
bretth
post Feb 8 2016, 10:06 PM
Post #9


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 899
Joined: 23-June 15
From: Central TX
Member No.: 18,882
Region Association: Southwest Region



They are interesting cars but i cannot get into the shape of the rear half.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
PancakePorsche
post Feb 8 2016, 11:21 PM
Post #10


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 236
Joined: 29-July 11
From: Southern California
Member No.: 13,373
Region Association: None



Much more cramped inside especially for the tall than the 914, but equal in handling IMHO. Appointment in interior kinda primitive compared to the 914. Engine fire? say goodby. body burns like a gas dipped candle.
I dig the twin cam version. If I had the room I would have one. Very rare to see one on the road these days.

Some say too odd looking, but haven't we heard that before ?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Tom_T
post Feb 9 2016, 12:30 AM
Post #11


TMI....
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,318
Joined: 19-March 09
From: Orange, CA
Member No.: 10,181
Region Association: Southern California



QUOTE(smg914 @ Feb 8 2016, 06:22 PM) *

I owned this JPS for 5 years. I sold it about 5 years ago to purchase my LE creamsicle. I loved it and in a perfect world I would have kept it but I wanted this LE and with the lack of money and space, the Lotus had to go.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-1695-1454984507.jpeg)


Hi Steve!

I saw Steve's JPS when he still had it, & it was just as nice as his 914-6 & Sahara Biege 73 2L! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

For my tastes - I preferred their earlier Elan & later Esprit for styling reasons.

Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
///////
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
shoguneagle
post Feb 9 2016, 04:56 AM
Post #12


shoguneagle
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,180
Joined: 3-January 03
From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico
Member No.: 84
Region Association: Northern California



Chapman always built his cars on the very edge of everything including weight and quality. These cars are nothing more than a disguised race car of the era and performed very well; maintenance costs another thing. I had the '77 Lotus Esprit until a few years ago and had friends with Elans which is one of the best Lotus made; another one which really made the name Lotus was the Seven. The Seven is still a very enjoyable road and race car which holds its own even today.

The Europa is very, very hard to get in and out requiring one to carefully climb in and then roll out on your hands. Great car for auto crossing and racing. Lotus had the reputation "if it broke, make it lighter; run it harder". Great innovation came out of the Lotus Works.

Dld you know there was one of these Europa's had a v-8 installed at the factory and sold to a customer; it was being restored about ten or so years ago. Great history behind Lotus both as a road car and in racing.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
914world2014
post Feb 9 2016, 09:27 AM
Post #13


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 16
Joined: 7-April 14
From: nj
Member No.: 17,214
Region Association: None



QUOTE(shoguneagle @ Feb 9 2016, 02:56 AM) *

Chapman always built his cars on the very edge of everything including weight and quality. These cars are nothing more than a disguised race car of the era and performed very well; maintenance costs another thing. I had the '77 Lotus Esprit until a few years ago and had friends with Elans which is one of the best Lotus made; another one which really made the name Lotus was the Seven. The Seven is still a very enjoyable road and race car which holds its own even today.

The Europa is very, very hard to get in and out requiring one to carefully climb in and then roll out on your hands. Great car for auto crossing and racing. Lotus had the reputation "if it broke, make it lighter; run it harder". Great innovation came out of the Lotus Works.

Dld you know there was one of these Europa's had a v-8 installed at the factory and sold to a customer; it was being restored about ten or so years ago. Great history behind Lotus both as a road car and in racing.


I always wanted to get one of these, especially a JPS. I have a beautiful 914 LE, will see some day.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cpavlenko
post Feb 9 2016, 11:09 AM
Post #14


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 489
Joined: 19-April 12
From: North Arizona
Member No.: 14,400
Region Association: Southwest Region



I did a complete restoration on a 74 Europa special. Had 19,000 miles on it when I purchased it. Ground up, it was powder coated and polished. Louie Unser did the build on the motor. went all out on this Lotus.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Cairo94507
post Feb 9 2016, 11:14 AM
Post #15


Michael
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 9,650
Joined: 1-November 08
From: Auburn, CA
Member No.: 9,712
Region Association: Northern California



When I had my 2nd Six a neighbor around the corner had the JPS Lotus. He was a car nut too. We would take each other for rides and scare the crap out of each other. Both cars handled like they were on rails. He still has that JPS and one more, non JPS in his garage.

I can't wait until I get my Six back and take a ride to the old-old neighborhood and show it to him and check out both his cars.

We are both older and hopefully wiser now.....
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cpavlenko
post Feb 9 2016, 11:15 AM
Post #16


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 489
Joined: 19-April 12
From: North Arizona
Member No.: 14,400
Region Association: Southwest Region



More


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
malcolm2
post Feb 9 2016, 11:26 AM
Post #17


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,729
Joined: 31-May 11
From: Nashville
Member No.: 13,139
Region Association: South East States



QUOTE(bretth @ Feb 8 2016, 10:06 PM) *

They are interesting cars but i cannot get into the shape of the rear half.



reminds me of the 914 "TRUCK" mod.

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cpavlenko
post Feb 9 2016, 11:29 AM
Post #18


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 489
Joined: 19-April 12
From: North Arizona
Member No.: 14,400
Region Association: Southwest Region



Well u get the ideal on restoration, for some reason I lost the completed pictures on my backup drive. when I have time I'll scan and update. The Lotus was very hard to get into, and out of. But once in it was a blast to drive. Sold it to the guy who I bought it from. The 914 is much easier to get in and out of.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
914world2014
post Feb 9 2016, 11:33 AM
Post #19


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 16
Joined: 7-April 14
From: nj
Member No.: 17,214
Region Association: None



QUOTE(cpavlenko @ Feb 9 2016, 09:29 AM) *

Well u get the ideal on restoration, for some reason I lost the completed pictures on my backup drive. when I have time I'll scan and update. The Lotus was very hard to get into, and out of. But once in it was a blast to drive. Sold it to the guy who I bought it from. The 914 is much easier to get in and out of.

Nice restoration!! WOW. Would have bought it off you. Was it a 5 speed?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cpavlenko
post Feb 9 2016, 11:35 AM
Post #20


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 489
Joined: 19-April 12
From: North Arizona
Member No.: 14,400
Region Association: Southwest Region



QUOTE(914world2014 @ Feb 9 2016, 10:33 AM) *

QUOTE(cpavlenko @ Feb 9 2016, 09:29 AM) *

Well u get the ideal on restoration, for some reason I lost the completed pictures on my backup drive. when I have time I'll scan and update. The Lotus was very hard to get into, and out of. But once in it was a blast to drive. Sold it to the guy who I bought it from. The 914 is much easier to get in and out of.

Nice restoration!! WOW. Would have bought it off you. Was it a 5 speed?

Yes.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

2 Pages V  1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 28th March 2024 - 11:54 PM