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> 914/6 - changing the colour from original, Effect on value?
cal914
post Feb 9 2016, 01:35 PM
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We have recently bought a matching numbers 914/6 and it needs some restoration work including a bare metal re-spray. It is (original) Alaska [edit: should have said Adriatic blue] Blue and we are not keen on that colour. Our favourite colour is Signal Orange.

We will be keeping the car once restored and driving it and showing it, for the foreseeable.

We would be interested to hear views on the effect on value in changing the colour.

Thanks Kate/Brian
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post Feb 9 2016, 02:32 PM
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Kate & Brian,

I've struggled with the same dillemma - in reverse - myself in my 73 914-2.0 "914S" (914SC in UK) resto - it being the L80E Light Ivory (white) from the factory, & going to the 73 colors I really like: Marathon Blue & Alaska Blue Metallics. .... Marathon Blue being my top choice in factory blues for 73 MY.

Changing colors on 914s back in the day was pretty common - even by the dealers to get them sold, as with mine having had several intervening repaints to Sahara Biege & Gold before I got it in Dec. 75 (in just 36 months!), + the 75-76 MY 914 Copper & the 930 Anthracite Grey Metallic at my hand in 8/76 & 6/80 respectively.

What I found in my informal survey of original vs. color change to period correct factory colors was that the cars were running 20-60% below those in their correct original colors when restored, & going to a non-factory/non-Porsche color was even worse. I was looking solely at similar 73 & 74 MY 914-2.0s on resale a couple of years back while researching & planning for my resto.

A 20-40% deduct on value for a $20-30,000 `73 2.0 /4 isn't too earth shattering, but on an $80,000-100,000 914-6 could put quite a hole in one's pocket!

I did not look at 914-6s at all, but suggest that you do so in your own survey of actual sales, & by contacting the 914-6 registry website, Hagarty Classic Car Insurance here in the US, George Hussey at Auto Atlanta, etc. for their expert opinions (as I also did). Except for a few others far more expert than I on here - what you'll get is more hearsay & anecdotal evidence (as is mine), & merely personal opinions.

Ultimately - she's your car & your check to repaint, & living with the consequences of your choice on same.

Also - Alaska Blue was not a 1970 nor 1971 color - I think you mean either L98P/1010 Blue Metallic (70 MY), or L96E/8610 Gemini Blue Metallic (71 MY) [FYI - the Porsche codes used on 914-6s for those same colors are listed on the colors page at the 914 Info link at the top of this webpage) - that is, unless was the non-metallic L50E/1610 Adriatic Blue. Note that I've added the "10" convention for Porsche factory colors to the color's leading 2-digit number for the paint color, which was used to signify the black targa top on 914-6's & other 911/912 models (as compared to the numbers in the 914world color chart).

Look on your Karmann Plate in the front doorjamb of the driver's door & the color code is stamped oin the bottom box thereon, &/or it should be on your COA - but those have been widely known to have been incorrectly done by Porsche here in the USA, & possibly in Germany too, due to folks doing them not looking up the right code interpretation for a particular MY. I had to fight with PCNA over their incorrect color name off of what they had as the correct color code.

So if your COA says the Alaska Blue - then it's incorrect, unless you have a 98/L98/99 custom paint code on that Karman plate - & even then you'll need to confirm what the customer requested color actually was directly from the original Kardex build card &/or original dealer order sheet!

See these links & look at the pix of the actual 914s in those colors:

1970 MY - http://p914.com/p914_paint_70.htm

1971 MY - http://p914.com/p914_paint_71.htm

All MY's Colors - http://p914.com/p914_paint.htm

Please substitute mentally your UK "colours" - for my "colors" above! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

What I did to desensitize myself to actually liking the L80E Light Ivory was to start collecting pix of nice 914s in that color - especially with the dealer option "PORSCHE" side-script decal, to get the Auto Art 1:18 model in that color, & to learn that "white" is one of the easiest colors to present at concours! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Maybe after you recheck on the original color, then you can do a similar desensitizing to it - if you decide to keep it in the original color! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Cheers & Good Luck on your Research & Project! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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post Feb 9 2016, 03:10 PM
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"Also - Alaska Blue was not a 1970 nor 1971 color - I think you mean either L98P/1010 Blue Metallic (70 MY), or L96E/8610 Gemini Blue Metallic (71 MY) [FYI - the Porsche codes used on 914-6s for those same colors are listed on the colors page at the 914 Info link at the top of this webpage) - that is, unless was the non-metallic L50E/1610 Adriatic Blue. Note that I've added the "10" convention for Porsche factory colors to the color's leading 2-digit number for the paint color, which was used to signify the black targa top on 914-6's & other 911/912 models (as compared to the numbers in the 914world color chart).

Look on your Karmann Plate in the front doorjamb of the driver's door & the color code is stamped oin the bottom box thereon, &/or it should be on your COA - but those have been widely known to have been incorrectly done by Porsche here in the USA, & possibly in Germany too, due to folks doing them not looking up the right code interpretation for a particular MY. I had to fight with PCNA over their incorrect color name off of what they had as the correct color code.

So if your COA says the Alaska Blue - then it's incorrect, unless you have a 98/L98/99 custom paint code on that Karman plate - & even then you'll need to confirm what the customer requested color actually was directly from the original Kardex build card &/or original dealer order sheet!"


Thanks for the advice - and sorry I got it wrong it is indeed Adriatic Blue.

Kate/Brian

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cal914   914/6 - changing the colour from original   Feb 9 2016, 01:35 PM
Tom_T   Kate & Brian, I've struggled with the sam...   Feb 9 2016, 02:32 PM
cal914   "Also - Alaska Blue was not a 1970 nor 1971 c...   Feb 9 2016, 03:10 PM
stevegm   We have recently bought a matching numbers 914/6 ...   Feb 9 2016, 02:41 PM
7TPorsh   A few years back changing the color was no big dea...   Feb 9 2016, 02:50 PM
Ferg   I would hazard a guess at about 20% Many collecto...   Feb 9 2016, 02:53 PM
rick 918-S   I would hazard a guess at about 20% Many collect...   Feb 9 2016, 03:00 PM
rgalla9146   I would hazard a guess at about 20% Many collec...   Feb 9 2016, 10:04 PM
rgalla9146   I would hazard a guess at about 20% Many collec...   Feb 9 2016, 10:05 PM
ConeDodger   :agree: And further, the 914 blue colors are gre...   Feb 9 2016, 02:59 PM
johnhora   A start would be to deduct the cost of a professio...   Feb 9 2016, 03:04 PM
Mark Henry   Few questions... Are you willing to take a hit on...   Feb 9 2016, 03:06 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Collectors in the market for an investment car wil...   Feb 9 2016, 03:18 PM
SirAndy   Collectors in the market for an investment car wil...   Feb 9 2016, 05:01 PM
jor   Please enjoy this decision -- this is the kind of ...   Feb 9 2016, 03:41 PM
johnhora   If this is the correct Adriatic Blue....it's a...   Feb 9 2016, 03:58 PM
Cairo94507   Blah blah blah...... yeah, you are going to take a...   Feb 9 2016, 04:03 PM
396   Blah blah blah...... yeah, you are going to take ...   Feb 9 2016, 04:43 PM
Larmo63   Funny, Adriatic Blue is the best color on a stock ...   Feb 9 2016, 05:16 PM
bigkensteele   Funny, Adriatic Blue is the best color on a stock...   Feb 9 2016, 05:28 PM
Tom_T   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/p914....   Feb 9 2016, 05:26 PM
thomasotten   Being one who has changed the color of his car, I ...   Feb 9 2016, 05:28 PM
siverson   :agree: IMO, Adriatic Blue is one of the best co...   Feb 9 2016, 05:54 PM
sixnotfour   if its not the COA color ,,its not numbers matchin...   Feb 9 2016, 06:01 PM
Tom_T   So Kate & Brian - I'm assuming it may be a...   Feb 9 2016, 06:11 PM
Larmo63   DO NOT change that color!!!!!...   Feb 9 2016, 10:20 PM
boxsterfan   Adriatic Blue is one of the best colors. It will h...   Feb 9 2016, 10:26 PM
gereed75   do not change the color!!! For all th...   Feb 10 2016, 07:51 AM
Cairo94507   For some of us, time is one of the issues. To kee...   Feb 10 2016, 08:04 AM
Tom_T   With only perhaps half or maybe 70-75% of the 3333...   Feb 10 2016, 09:16 AM
Mark Henry   You know there is another option, paint your 914 t...   Feb 10 2016, 10:17 AM
Tom_T   You know there is another option, paint your 914 ...   Feb 10 2016, 11:03 AM
daytona   My self I prefer to repaint in the original color....   Feb 10 2016, 12:08 PM
Cairo94507   Yeah....so I never implied that other sixes that w...   Feb 10 2016, 11:01 PM
Tom_T   Yeah....so I never implied that other sixes that ...   Feb 11 2016, 12:19 AM
mountainroads   We have recently bought a matching numbers 914/6 ...   Feb 11 2016, 12:13 PM
Mark Henry   Likely the best answer is if it's a real six k...   Feb 11 2016, 02:32 PM
Tom_T   How do the colour purists stand on the subject of...   Feb 11 2016, 08:13 PM
scotty b   The other thing no one has asked/mentioned yet is ...   Feb 11 2016, 03:36 PM
Tom_T   .... nor am I a CW zealot when looking at or tal...   Feb 11 2016, 08:14 PM
Mark Henry   .... nor am I a CW zealot when looking at or ta...   Feb 11 2016, 10:38 PM
gandalf_025   In a word........... Yes A color change will...   Feb 11 2016, 03:52 PM
Cairo94507   Definitely!   Feb 11 2016, 10:27 PM


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